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Had a great trip to the dunes 👍I'd say I broke the new front end in quite well there. And it passed with flying colors. It definitely is more of an improvement that I imagined it would be. I would say my current set up is pretty good for dune running. We did some trail riding over the holiday weekend as well so it gave me a chance to see how it would do and compare there as well. Agian, no complaints and it exceeded my expectations in about every aspect. The trails around here can get pretty beat up and it rode really well. I am going to make a small spring change just for the trail riding we do but I'd say it's more out of curiosity to see what it does and how it changes things. The width is definitely more noticeable in some of the less open areas we run but was manageable. With the new front, now it has us really discussing and re-thinking the rear suspension now...😄 more on that later.. and the possibility of doing another a conversion on another rail that's in the stable. Which reminds me, I may have sold another one as a gentleman at the dunes came and checked it out and asked a ton of questions. He didnt believe us that 3 weeks before we were there that it was a beam car!! I told him to look up the website. 👍 he was pretty interested
as doug is building them now, i asked that he join the discussion. i am not sure why he hasn't to date but maybe he will at some point.
Quote from: Aprilfools on September 07, 2021, 07:27:38 PMHad a great trip to the dunes 👍I'd say I broke the new front end in quite well there. And it passed with flying colors. It definitely is more of an improvement that I imagined it would be. I would say my current set up is pretty good for dune running. We did some trail riding over the holiday weekend as well so it gave me a chance to see how it would do and compare there as well. Agian, no complaints and it exceeded my expectations in about every aspect. The trails around here can get pretty beat up and it rode really well. I am going to make a small spring change just for the trail riding we do but I'd say it's more out of curiosity to see what it does and how it changes things. The width is definitely more noticeable in some of the less open areas we run but was manageable. With the new front, now it has us really discussing and re-thinking the rear suspension now...😄 more on that later.. and the possibility of doing another a conversion on another rail that's in the stable. Which reminds me, I may have sold another one as a gentleman at the dunes came and checked it out and asked a ton of questions. He didnt believe us that 3 weeks before we were there that it was a beam car!! I told him to look up the website. 👍 he was pretty interested fabr is correct..... we did know you would be impressed very nice picture and great review. a good front end always makes a huge difference! not saying a beam front end properly set up isn't a good front end but they have limitations as all front ends do. bringing the back end up to par with the front will make another large change that will impress! let us know how the spring rate change works out. you did a very nice job converting it and apparently good enough that people cannot tell it was converted, that says a lot unto itself!i know you had mentioned yours sons car had an a arm front end as well. not saying one is better then the other or asking anyone compare in that sense. how do they compare in the sand and in the trails? does one have more carving capability in the sand? tighter turning radius? does one have more steering feedback or steer easier? little aspects like that as one may do better in diff conditions where the other may shine in diff conditions as well. maybe they handle the exact same? always curious as one never knows where there is room for improvement.
Quote from: dsrace on September 07, 2021, 09:27:11 PMas doug is building them now, i asked that he join the discussion. i am not sure why he hasn't to date but maybe he will at some point. The gentlemen we talked with, i referred him here to see the discussions and the projects that are shown here converted. I referred him to the SandParts website for the kit so Doug may here from him on it.
Quote from: dsrace on September 07, 2021, 09:20:57 PMQuote from: Aprilfools on September 07, 2021, 07:27:38 PMHad a great trip to the dunes 👍I'd say I broke the new front end in quite well there. And it passed with flying colors. It definitely is more of an improvement that I imagined it would be. I would say my current set up is pretty good for dune running. We did some trail riding over the holiday weekend as well so it gave me a chance to see how it would do and compare there as well. Agian, no complaints and it exceeded my expectations in about every aspect. The trails around here can get pretty beat up and it rode really well. I am going to make a small spring change just for the trail riding we do but I'd say it's more out of curiosity to see what it does and how it changes things. The width is definitely more noticeable in some of the less open areas we run but was manageable. With the new front, now it has us really discussing and re-thinking the rear suspension now...😄 more on that later.. and the possibility of doing another a conversion on another rail that's in the stable. Which reminds me, I may have sold another one as a gentleman at the dunes came and checked it out and asked a ton of questions. He didnt believe us that 3 weeks before we were there that it was a beam car!! I told him to look up the website. 👍 he was pretty interested fabr is correct..... we did know you would be impressed very nice picture and great review. a good front end always makes a huge difference! not saying a beam front end properly set up isn't a good front end but they have limitations as all front ends do. bringing the back end up to par with the front will make another large change that will impress! let us know how the spring rate change works out. you did a very nice job converting it and apparently good enough that people cannot tell it was converted, that says a lot unto itself!i know you had mentioned yours sons car had an a arm front end as well. not saying one is better then the other or asking anyone compare in that sense. how do they compare in the sand and in the trails? does one have more carving capability in the sand? tighter turning radius? does one have more steering feedback or steer easier? little aspects like that as one may do better in diff conditions where the other may shine in diff conditions as well. maybe they handle the exact same? always curious as one never knows where there is room for improvement.That's a good question and one we hadn't even discussed until now. But, I haven't spent much time in my sons car, especially driving it. He has driven both on the dunes and in trails. When i asked him first thing he said was mine has more stability, steers easier and handles better through the bumps. But my rear suspension is set up better so that may effect overall bump absorption. One really noticeable thing we both notice as we are bigger guys is his design narrows the front or "tapers" it to accommodate the arms reducing leg room as the chassis gets closer to the front. Mine does not do this or hinder leg room at all. We will do some comparisons and I will report back. I am curious what differences we can come up with
that is interesting. i'm always interesting in knowing comparisons such as those. i do understand the narrowing effect you speak of. what rear suspension changes are you considering?
5x5's??btw dual rear a arms are not that hard to fabricate. no i don't make a kit for them
If at all possible I highly suggest you consider a dual equal length a-arm rear suspension. Properly done it is as strong as a TA/semi TA and ,IMO,handles much better. Now if I were running stuff like King of Hammers terrain I'd go with TA/semi TA but for all other uses it's dual equal length a-arms for me.