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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #435 on: September 04, 2017, 08:49:50 PM »
Yes ,Jon is doing a fine job in boost he just needs to richen up the off boost area for your cam. Where is that dead horse? I feel like beating one. ;D
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #436 on: September 19, 2017, 10:05:11 AM »
well swapped cams. def better on take off. i put the holset turbo back on with rr cam just to see how it does. its spooling a little sooner but not quick enough. i have a 50 trim t3\t4 turbonetics on loan from enemy i`ll have to fit and parts are ordered just a week out. had a .63 exh housing on it and a .48 with it. i swapped out to the .48, i want it in asap! lol
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #437 on: October 24, 2017, 01:11:53 PM »
ok so got it all up and running again. runs pretty good and 14 psi boost by 2700 rpm now vs 1-2 by 2800 before so def better in that aspect. def lost some tq at the entrance of mid range but not a huge issue. sun though....when enemy stopped out to make a few laps in the new turbo busa build......we took mine out and did a little tuning on it. upon further viewing the data looks as if my walbro 450 fuel pump is dieing. well at st a, enemy took mine for a spin and said at higher rpm it felt like it was flat running out of fuel. now the data shows that at 4500 rpm and above it is running out of fuel to a point. so i looked at a1000 pumps and magnafuel pumps. not a lot of real info on the magnafuel pro tuner 750 pump series out there but what i found were good statements and 1 bad one. they rate the pumps by hp rather than flow. what i found surprising is i read the a1000 by aeromotive is only a 90 psi max and 397lph. unless that was a mis typed error that is less than my walbro 450 is rated for so went with the 750 pro tuner pump. called and talked to techs this am and thy said there 525 would be a better choice and even though there site doesnt say so that all there pumps are rated for e85 use. now he did tell me that i need to feed the pump via an10 or 12 and that my tank vent needs to be atleast an8. an8 fuel feed line to injs is min and i should be good there. so the 2000 hp capable rating on the pump is pump fuel and n\a appearantly. so he said on e85 boosted prob closer to 1200 hp. still waaaaaay farter than it will ever! be but still wth. no time to return it and get the 525 so i will have to alter the tank again. i have seen the a1000 on several rails but that 90 psi max concerned me and th 397 lph rating as at 30 psi i`ll be very close to 80 psi fuel.         any thoughts anyone?
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #438 on: October 24, 2017, 01:23:50 PM »
btw .....with this stock cam and t3 t4 turbonetics turbo i am 14 psi at 2700 rpm. that is because we have not activated the boost controller yet so spring in wg is 14 lb. this cam is suppose to start falling off at 5200rpm but feels solid to 6k rpm. now my end goal ( it will happen) is 30 psi boost! will i use it much....prob not but i will have it when i want it!!  rofl rofl LMAO LMAO ;D ;D
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #439 on: October 24, 2017, 04:39:32 PM »
I have heard the aeromotive are good, my buddy Mike runs one, 400 HP.  I run the outfront Pierburg fuel pump.  $220  Good so far

http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/fuel_rails_and_injectors.htm


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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #440 on: October 24, 2017, 04:46:54 PM »
thanks for the info....i assume that bosch they reference is the 044 style? those are not rated for e85 but do work a while. what base fuel psi is mike running and what boost presure is the rising rate reg seeing so in other words how high of a fuel psi is mike seeing at full boost,
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #441 on: October 24, 2017, 08:23:47 PM »
I had a brand new aeromotive A1000 chew itself apart in a couple trips. I sent it back and they took care of it. They said that fuel flow was the issue.  I ran -8 in and -6 out. According to the tech my fuel lab filters were too restrictive and caused internal cavitation that chewed it up. They were very helpful and my case may have been a one off issue. The A1000 is also very loud in a car with a quiet exhaust like mine. I went back to the Bosch and its is quiet and works perfect for my motor.
I have run a Aeromotive A2000 in my fairlane for about 8 years with no issues at all but that's for a carb motor.
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #442 on: October 24, 2017, 08:24:55 PM »
I have heard the aeromotive are good, my buddy Mike runs one, 400 HP.  I run the outfront Pierburg fuel pump.  $220  Good so far

http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/fuel_rails_and_injectors.htm
We have run these and the Bosch with great success
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #443 on: October 25, 2017, 06:56:26 AM »
good info. i did find an actual flow chart on aeromotives site last night. it would work but again the 90psi max rating kind of stopped me. this pump i ordered is to big for my needs and goals. the rep said it will work but will just return more fuel back to the tank. there pro tuner 525 series would be a better fit over the pro tuner 750 series. speedway is on the way home and they sell the a1000 and aeromotive pre and post filters. 
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #444 on: October 25, 2017, 08:24:33 AM »
thanks for the info....i assume that bosch they reference is the 044 style? those are not rated for e85 but do work a while. what base fuel psi is mike running and what boost presure is the rising rate reg seeing so in other words how high of a fuel psi is mike seeing at full boost,

I think he runs 45 psi, with 15 pounds boost, so 60 psi max. 

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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #445 on: October 25, 2017, 07:38:12 PM »
well i stopped at speedway motors on the way home. bought all the fittings and a1000 pump along with aeromotive 100 micron pre filter. boy are they proud of there parts lol it flows more fuel than i  need just isnt the 120 psi i wanted. its 90 psi max and i should at the most only require 75 psi and sldom at that.  i dont have a week to return the pro tuner 750 and wait for the pro tuner 525. bought an 10 for feed from tank through pre filter to pump. an8 out of pump to 4 micron 250 gph filter theen an8 to rail and all of return line. now i have to pull the tip over vent i have and go 1\2" line for vent. there shouldn`t be any restriction with this.
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #446 on: October 30, 2017, 11:15:23 AM »
installed and fired off sat.  def louder than the in tank pump but outside with engine running cannot hear it. now fuel reg was set at 45psi before w\o vac connected. fired up with new a1000 pump and sitting rock solid at 55psi lol adjusted it back to 45 psi and will have to make a few runs to re tune. sad to loose my fuel gauge but iall figure something out. just need to get 1 wire through tank to sender and i can attach and hook it back up. but now an10 from tank to pump through the aeromotive 100 micron pre filter to pump then an8 feed and return. put a larger tank vent in too.
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #447 on: October 30, 2017, 05:10:42 PM »
well swapped cams. def better on take off. i put the holset turbo back on with rr cam just to see how it does. its spooling a little sooner but not quick enough. i have a 50 trim t3\t4 turbonetics on loan from enemy i`ll have to fit and parts are ordered just a week out. had a .63 exh housing on it and a .48 with it. i swapped out to the .48, i want it in asap! lol
Along those lines ,I have been looking into using a '15-'16 supercharged LT4 Corvette engine after I blow up the engine I have now. I'll tell more about that in the desert car thread. I'm going to run the shit out of it when it goes back together. SOB.  Anyway,450 #ft. at idle,650 #ft. @ 2000 rpm and stays there till around 6200. 650HP.
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #448 on: October 30, 2017, 06:52:02 PM »
Along those lines ,I have been looking into using a '15-'16 supercharged LT4 Corvette engine after I blow up the engine I have now. I'll tell more about that in the desert car thread. I'm going to run the shit out of it when it goes back together. SOB.  Anyway,450 #ft. at idle,650 #ft. @ 2000 rpm and stays there till around 6200. 650HP.

that will be damn impressive but i thought you got yours fixed and prob run quite a while!!!!  ;D ;D
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Re: turbo 1300 to turbo 2300 conversion
« Reply #449 on: October 31, 2017, 02:37:02 PM »
looking good DS.  What HP are you shooting for with 30 lbs boost and 100 psi fuel?  600?  What can you get when you really wring these out tight?  And do they last?