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Offline budlight69

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Re: AR-51 build
« Reply #315 on: October 23, 2019, 03:50:58 PM »
Looking very good my man!  But I have a very important question, are you planning on a LS trip next spring? 

Cool to hear that the bypasses made it that much smoother, I may have to add them sometime. 

The car is definitely getting to the deranged stage! 

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Re: AR-51 build
« Reply #316 on: October 24, 2019, 06:41:06 AM »
out of curiosity .....with the addition of the by pass shocks, did you change the valving in your coil over ( faster comp/slower rebound) to allow the bypass to do most of the work?
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Re: AR-51 build
« Reply #317 on: October 24, 2019, 11:55:17 AM »
Oh man,I've been researching this a lot lately. LOTS of differing opinions out there.
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Re: AR-51 build
« Reply #318 on: October 25, 2019, 06:50:18 AM »
This spring might be a long stretch as the car isn't truly tested as of yet to make the trek down there, now next fall, IT'S ON!!!!!

Great question regarding the valving.  The simple answer is 8, 10 and 12.  8 stack in the coil over, 10 stack in the mid speed clicker on the reservoir for the coil over and a 12 stack in the bypass.  My good friend Neal who is in with King and some of the guys who do shock tuning are just amazing when it comes to shock tuning.  I worked with Neal and gave him all of my suspension info, rough corner weight pivot points, un sprung weight and maybe a piece of my liver.  All that was sent over to King and 2 months later I got a set of bypasses with recommended valving instructions.  Currently I have a 10 stack in the clicker reservoir, a 10 stack with a big flutter stack and the bypasses are 12's.  The bypass valving is set up right in the middle.  So  far just doing the mechanical testing, I am still amazed at how well the car stays planted in the whoops.

Below is a link to a video of a truck that the suspension was set up the buy that Neal knows.  There was a group of guys up here in the mitten who pooled up some money for this guy to fly out to Michigan and spread some suspension wizzardry.  I can't wait to get some action video of the suspension doing it's thing.


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Re: AR-51 build
« Reply #319 on: October 25, 2019, 01:29:51 PM »
sounds like you had some real guidence from some experts. i have never understood kings valving so i have no idea what 8,10 or 12 means in a king shock.  i am glad to hear and see that it works very good on your rail!! i have tried flutter stacks in the past and could tell no difference so i have never tried again. i have read statements and have talked to people that have installed bypass with out changine valving or springs on existing c/o shocks. they have all said it made a huge diff right out of the box with no adjustment. i have spoken with mark at marks sand trans ( fox dealer, expert etc etc) about speeding up comp and rebound on c/o and setting bypass to do most of the dampening. now this is based on the c/o being pretty much on the money already. he has said flutter stacks work well and when i say i have tried and saw no difference, i should say i have tried this on fox air shocks. they are a little different animal then c/o's. lokks like its working very well for you in the video's deranged
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