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Offline fabr

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Fox vs King 2.5's
« on: November 12, 2010, 05:08:27 PM »
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 10:24:20 PM »
excellent info fabbr, very good caparison!
« Last Edit: November 14, 2010, 09:13:49 AM by Dsrace »
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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 06:21:30 AM »
They are so similar, its like China copied one.  But I guess there are only so many ways to skin a cat.
You can keep your CHANGE, I'd like to keep my DOLLAR.

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 11:55:23 AM »
I can say this about the fox 2.5 air shock, I was told by the fox rep that it was designed ( or one of the reasons ) to hold up a rear engine v-6 rail or rock crawlers for the front 4 link. I know in my case I wish I would have gone with the 2.5 air in the rear of my rail instead of the coil assist 2.0. I don't like the coil hum or the feel of the transition between the primary and secondary coil rate. I have never had that with air shocks once they have been tuned right!  I know many pre-fer coil overs but I'm not one of them. now I know on enemy's rail we installed 2.0's in the rear in the beginning and as the weight started adding up they were to light for that weight class so he was running 700 psi in them which in turn created higher heat so they faded quickly. he then went to the 2.5 also valved differently and reduced down to 400 psi which in an air shock that massive. also doesn't have the heat issue anymore either. now that he has added more weight I'm sure he wants to re-valve a little again and the front is going to need as well. these fox airs are so easy to re-valve and the coil assist airs as well but the remote reservoir coil overs not so much imo.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2010, 12:00:13 PM by Dsrace »
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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 12:59:15 PM »
The article says that the King lower spring perches reduce travel. They only shift the spring upward from where it would be with a Fox style perch. The shock body can go down inside the King style.

The article also said that the King style of threading the top cap on the outside of the body made it harder to change to triple rate. I guess what they are saying is that swapping the spring off the bottom is harder than the top since you can leave the main spring on. The flaw I find with that, is that you can't get the springs past the reservoir lines on either shock. It only works with the ones they had which had the reservoir lines removed. An advantage to the King setup is more travel for a given length shock. Without the cap threading into the body, the piston can go up higher.

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 09:28:43 PM »
The article says that the King lower spring perches reduce travel. They only shift the spring upward from where it would be with a Fox style perch. The shock body can go down inside the King style.

With the King bottom coil mount you will loose .25" travel over and non-coil shock. It sits on top of the shaft end reducing travel.

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 01:55:56 PM »
I assumed they were like the ones on my Bilstein shocks where the seat sits on a ridge around the shock eye rather than on the end of it.

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 08:03:12 PM »
That pitting on the shaft of the king means cheap/no chrome on the rod.  From my experience on large hyd cylinders.

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 06:06:29 AM »
Ya,there is a difference in flash chrome plating and hard chrome plating. That was not addresses in the article. It would be nice to know.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 07:15:23 PM »
Finding a good platter in Kalifornia is difficult. With all the hoops you have to jump through to keep the EPA at bay, quality has taken a hit. Several of the platting company's I have used over the years closed shop due to the cost of doing business here. I have had very few problems with King shafts unless they were dinged which takes a pretty good hit.

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 09:52:22 AM »
Doesn't matter the brand, they all take a beating.

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Re: Fox vs King 2.5's
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 11:58:03 AM »
Are you saying rocks don't care whose name is on the shock?
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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"I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots" Albert Einstein  (IT'S OFFICIAL THAT DAY IS HERE NOW!)