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Offline Carlriddle

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Re: Carl's new Build
« Reply #225 on: February 26, 2014, 01:53:04 PM »
Carl,you need some shrouding on thr intake side of your radiaor. Would work wonders for you.

I'm gonna bite bullet and move up above motor.  Really liked it being hidden, but hate the breaks to cool down.  Also checking other parts of cooling system too.
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« Reply #226 on: February 26, 2014, 06:05:56 PM »
 simple intake shroud will do the same thing and still be out of sight.  If you do move it up don't tilt it any more than absolutely necessary or the repositioning may not help.  just my 2 cents. Just wait till you see where I have the rad in the desert car. It will need a bit of air directing but I do not want a radiator just inches from my head like so many cars are built.
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« Reply #227 on: February 26, 2014, 07:01:30 PM »
it could work to funnel air in and I still think that oil cooler would do the trick as well since the antifreeze is taking on the temp of the oil as well. separating the two and cooling the oil I think will make a huge diff but shrouds do    do a lot too!
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« Reply #228 on: February 26, 2014, 07:41:30 PM »
Grab some crayons and give me your thought.
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« Reply #229 on: February 26, 2014, 07:49:07 PM »
Ditch the traditional 50/50 antifreeze also. Use distilled water and perhaps 20% pink antifreeze. You'll be surprised at how much better that works . You can also go distilled water and water wetter . The absolute best coolant is pure distilled water but we need something added to lube seals and provide corrosion protection. That takes a lot less antifreeze than 50/50. Make sure you add extra coolant for winter tho.Lots of info on the net about this if interested.
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« Reply #230 on: February 26, 2014, 08:07:11 PM »
Just the addition of a perimeter "spill plate" to keep the air it is getting from just flowing around it would maybe all that is needed. Perhaps 3" tall or so.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
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Re: Carl's new Build
« Reply #231 on: February 27, 2014, 04:41:46 AM »
fab ' what is pink antifreeze, haven't hear of it , is it what some call rv antifreeze, used in rv water pipes  ???

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« Reply #232 on: February 27, 2014, 05:40:26 AM »
I ran water/and water wetter last trip no antifreeze and remembered to drain before this crazy cold winter.  I believe I will stand the rad more vertical too Since the air hitting the angled rad may be sliding off instead of thru?  I also believe there is a vacumn of dead still air that resides behind the seats/engine.  I need a wind tunnel.
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« Reply #233 on: February 27, 2014, 06:12:02 AM »
I ran water/and water wetter last trip no antifreeze and remembered to drain before this crazy cold winter.  I believe I will stand the rad more vertical too Since the air hitting the angled rad may be sliding off instead of thru?  I also believe there is a vacumn of dead still air that resides behind the seats/engine.  I need a wind tunnel.
Propylene glycol as opposed to ethylene glycol . Propylene glycol carries much more heat away than ethylene glycol based . Yes,rv antifreeze is PG antifreeze.
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Re: Carl's new Build
« Reply #234 on: February 27, 2014, 07:06:23 AM »
thanks for info  ??? ;D

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« Reply #235 on: February 27, 2014, 09:09:32 AM »
Thinking about airflow,  drowning, and even though cage is open there is resistance in passenger compartment.  So air crosses up and over down.  And having the radiator mounted like first pic, air could slide on down rad instead of thru it? 
Second pic is how I see many mounted on big cars with wing trunk kinda wrapping around and makes good sense, but I would be unprotected by cage and have to redo wing.  thumb down

So I leaning towards 3rd pic.  Up in clean air.

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« Reply #236 on: February 27, 2014, 11:21:15 AM »
From a safety standpoint,option 3 is by far the worst thing possible.Cooling wise,the best. I would not do option 3.

Option 2 is  bad on the cooling side due to the airflow just packing in the fine and then just bypassing the core. Put a perimater air dam on it and the airflow issue is gone but the position still looks goofy as hell.

I like option 1 by far the best. Still needs the air dam but it looks good positioned there.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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« Reply #237 on: February 27, 2014, 02:24:42 PM »
Additionally,if using PG antifreeze you will definitely want to run at a low concentration as it is of a heavier viscosity than EG antifreeze and therefore harder to pump if used as an actual antifreeze. Using it @ low concentrations with distilled water for corrosion protection,will give good results.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
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Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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« Reply #238 on: February 27, 2014, 02:29:46 PM »
Shroud it as in the pic in blue all 4 sides. Air will not just flow over and around core . Air will be forced thru core.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
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Re: Carl's new Build
« Reply #239 on: February 27, 2014, 06:58:57 PM »
now this works well for my rail but may or may not for yours but an idea none the less. of course my radiator is 2 pass  and a couple inches taller and a few inches wider with a 16" fan.
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