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Title: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on May 31, 2020, 08:29:22 AM
  so budlight and mike picked the fall trip dates. i am taking time to acknowledge this as he asked that i post them up for him. knowing budlight he did so in the event of bad weather i take the blame  LMAO LMAO :m :m rofl rofl  kick :m


fall dates are oct 13-18 2020

again i did not pick these dates so if the weather turns to $hit.... blame budlight69  :m :m  ;) ;D
Title: Re: LS fall trip 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on May 31, 2020, 08:47:33 AM
poster gets the credit. it's still your fault. :m
Title: Re: LS fall trip 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on May 31, 2020, 10:00:43 AM
poster gets the credit. it's still your fault. :m

 rofl nope  rofl

so i just booked site 624. only 2 sites left, i just informed enemy and allan.  i thought the res site was shit to begin with but they found a way to make it worse! wth is wrong with those people! plus they raised the rates to $32 during the week and $36 on weekends. no dump station and they have gone from $20 per night and $7 per driver at the gate to $32 and $10 per person. talk about making money hand over fist!
Title: Re: LS fall trip 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on May 31, 2020, 10:30:45 AM
i tell you what.....at the new rates and no dump station on the north side......the private campgrounds are starting to look very appealing! seriously they fook up the res site again, charge you weekend rates for fridays, inform you that if you do not show by noon the day the following day of scheduled arrival that you forfeit your reservation with now refund! you cannot control mechanical failure or an act of god. if you pay for the site then it's your or that is theft!  so basically it went from $60 for 3 nights to $102 and went from $21 in gate fees to $60.  from $81 to $162 for 3 days!

ok done with my rant
 
Title: Re: LS fall trip 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on May 31, 2020, 03:23:44 PM
And you guys think I'm silly buying a place in town. Worth every penny to not have to deal with IF there will be a spot available whenever I please.
Title: Re: LS fall trip 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 01, 2020, 06:56:28 AM
And you guys think I'm silly buying a place in town. Worth every penny to not have to deal with IF there will be a spot available whenever I please.

i am starting to see that. 
Title: Re: LS fall trip 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: Enemy on June 01, 2020, 08:04:27 PM
All booked out before I could even get to the damn internet thingy.
The reservation system is a fuking joke.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 04, 2020, 03:00:18 PM
you can pull in my camp slip. i have a 50 to 30 amp adapter.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: Grimm Reaper Racing on June 04, 2020, 08:49:09 PM
I'll be there for the fall trip.  The boss lady said I was cleared for it again.  Apparently I've been a good husband yet again. 😉🤙

I'm just not sure where I'm going to stay. I would have no issues sleeping in the SUV, as long as I've got a parking spot.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 04, 2020, 09:02:15 PM
 I might be able to get our friend to "rent" some electricity and parking space in front of his empty house he has for sale across the street from us.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: Enemy on June 04, 2020, 09:13:53 PM
All kinds of options now, I think they will have us all covered Grimm!
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 07, 2020, 12:19:03 PM
enemy had told me i bottomed out a couple time pulling wheelies out the gate. i know i did once as i felt that but didnt feel any others. this isnt surprising as i rarely feel it when i do. i say that as my wife has told me several times over the last few years that she has felt it. well i have never seen a bend in my skid plate so i never thought to much about it. the skid plate has a damn nice curve to it now  ;D and i have a crack in my frame. i guess it has taken its toll after a few years. easy enough to fix and reincorce. i'll add 5ccns more oil to the shock and hopefully stop the bottoming out. might even re valve them 1/2 step slower as well. for now i need to fix the exhaust and replace my shifter cables. i forgot about those and never ordered them.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 07, 2020, 06:25:21 PM
why you doing it now? it's not the last minute yet.................. ;) ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 08, 2020, 07:42:04 AM
 :m
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: budlight69 on June 08, 2020, 08:39:10 AM
Are you sure it's cracking from wheelies?  It seems like during a wheelie, the skid plate is pushing up, putting that member in compression?  Just a question, trying to always learn more.  And I got my M/H figured out, it needs a new transmission control module, damn. 
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 08, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
no from wheelies per say. its a combination of loads that has led to the crack in my case the crack is on the outside of the tube spreading around. it happened to be at an intersections so more brittle there from combined heat. most dont know but my right rear wheel flexes just enough in the wheel bearing that it pushes my brake pads back. this only happens during the hard trail runs. i of course turn left mor than  right so i side load that wheel quite a bit. during the wheelies off the first hill out the gate. i bottomed out at the base as i hit it dead on straight at to high of a rate of speed. i do not have external/internal by pass shocks aiding the primaries or that prob wouldn't ave happened. when i hit it was hard enough to bend my skid plate for the first time since installed. how do i know? i change te oil after every trip. so if you look at the pic of the crack again. notice thats my upper a arm connection point. imagine the different loads being applied to that point
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 08, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
It's from all the new POWer you have now!
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 09, 2020, 03:48:20 PM
It's from all the new POWer you have now!

well thats an interesting thought......hmmmm    lol ya it has a noticable extra few ponies  ;D   dead stop take if a very noticable difference. thats odd too cause the new cam usually trades bottom end for top end.  i am definately loading everything a tiny , smidgen , minute amount more. LMAO
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 09, 2020, 07:56:11 PM
so enemy can add more infor than i can. they claim the head/cam combo is a bolt on 75 hp bump. this is with proper tuning of course and proper installation. i must have got it right  :D cause turned down 10 psi to only 20, it sure feels like i ave all the top end i had at 30 psi. def more bottome end and i say that from a dead stop take off in 2nd gear.  i am def impressed with the combo for sure. 
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 10, 2020, 07:20:09 AM
with the previous super leaking exhaust flange and all the o2 coming in screwing up your previous combo didn't stand a chance of running right. Then it went to leaking again with the new combo. I assume you have it sealed up tight now tho. I bet you the tune is really coming around now.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 10, 2020, 11:42:10 AM
to behonest, after re tightening at the dunes it hasnt leaked again. i have better wrenches at home to really tighten it better. have not done anything with the tune since. i tried to tap the sand out of my keyboard the last day at the dunes. i forgot the screen detaches so ....ya ....it hit the floor and crushed the screen. i have 2 more lap tops as back ups lol. not the 1st time i dropped a lap top, infact its the 2nd time.  the first exh manifold i had never leaked and never came up loose. i do not know why this one has and i am using the same bolts. i know it was warped when he welded it but i had it surfaced before this trip. so i will get that taken care of for sure. it still doesnt leak as bad as before. you can def tell a diff when its tight  LMAO
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 15, 2020, 09:20:34 AM
so i spent 2 solid days working on various areas of my rail. been putting off a few things so the weekend was  a good time to get all the boxes checked off lol i need to order the switch to program my fuel gauge but other then that.....

i noticed a crack in my frame while i had the exh off repairing it. so i V'd the  crack and welded it then over welded it as i did the opposite side. i do not know why i did that on the drivers side but it has not cracked so ...ya.   i added a gusset to the pass side as well as it had to be flexing outward to crack in that manner.   

i decided to re align the rear end as i havent done it since i bolted it together for the first time. ya ya i dont practice what i preech lol   it had developed an additional 1* neg camber and 3\8" toe in. 1 turn of the heim set camber back to -.5* and 1\2 turn to set toe. 

changed my cv boot.....i hate cv's !   the tear was on the peak but its at a diaganol , sort of. must have been when i missed a couple turns in the trails and made new ones. i can see that the bellows are rubbing on one another and leaving a groove.

swapped the fuse block out and swapped 10g wires to 6g wires. i still need to order shifter cables.  zipped up a bunch of small things as well.


what brands and number of bellow boots is everyone running?

Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 15, 2020, 05:14:43 PM
I run genuine Bates 930(NOT copies) over the cv boots. I got mine from Kartek. So far I have not had a failure in approx 10 years. I still have the spares I bought at the same time and have been thinking of putting them on for the last few years. :m
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 15, 2020, 08:57:58 PM
There's 3 or 4 to choose from . pick which you want J use this one.
https://www.kartek.com/parts/genuine-bates-porsche-930-cv-joint-boot-clamps-directly-to-cv-joint-and-covers-up-the-cv-joint-bolts.html
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 16, 2020, 07:00:12 AM
for some reason i thought yours had half that number of ribs/pleats. mine are moog brand for f150 front cv's.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 16, 2020, 07:02:20 AM
carl runs the same boot w/o issue and i did too on my busa at 5* more engle. now the bates are def better quality material. i saw another  brand that had 4 pleats/ribs vs all mine have. do you think that would be better or worse for high angle??
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 16, 2020, 08:07:36 AM
like this

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/meistersatz-cv-boot-kit-k6010121070mei/11814724-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=11814724-P&adtype=&msclkid=f121d0fde11d15dc670d8e1530e32b3f&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=b_pla_all_driveline%2Fshafts_shafts%2Fboot%2Fkits_gen_gen_all_pros_aap_us_all&utm_term=4581046485360817&utm_content=Bing_PLA_Driveline%20-%20Shafts_Shafts%20%26%20Boot%20Kits_Cv%20Boot%20Kits&gclid=CIvoqPPAhuoCFVWwZQod4ckIQg&gclsrc=ds
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 16, 2020, 08:08:58 AM
or an empi boot

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/empi-empire-cv-joint-boot-kit-k6010668795emp/11481062-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=11481062-P&adtype=&msclkid=69fb1e5bdfc51a82c77a40b30d9ccf10&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=b_lia_all_driveline%2Fshafts_shafts%2Fboot%2Fkits_gen_gen_all_rmktg_aap_us_all&utm_term=4580496729630918&utm_content=Bing_LIA_Driveline%20-%20Shafts_Shafts%20%26%20Boot%20Kits_Cv%20Boot%20Kits&gclid=CNXp2aDBhuoCFT6qxQIdZpwLfQ&gclsrc=ds
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 16, 2020, 09:14:14 AM
or an empi boot

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/empi-empire-cv-joint-boot-kit-k6010668795emp/11481062-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=11481062-P&adtype=&msclkid=69fb1e5bdfc51a82c77a40b30d9ccf10&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=b_lia_all_driveline%2Fshafts_shafts%2Fboot%2Fkits_gen_gen_all_rmktg_aap_us_all&utm_term=4580496729630918&utm_content=Bing_LIA_Driveline%20-%20Shafts_Shafts%20%26%20Boot%20Kits_Cv%20Boot%20Kits&gclid=CNXp2aDBhuoCFT6qxQIdZpwLfQ&gclsrc=ds
UM,no.  But feel free to do so if you like replacing them much more often. Totally different compound that you can easily see and feel.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 16, 2020, 09:46:07 AM
 ;)   had one in my hand before the spring trip. wasnt sure what i thought about it. didnt look like it would rub but they were a pretty stiff boot. my issue this last trip may have been something in the weeds and bushes i drove through when i could make a turn in the trails. that happened twice. the last 3 were because the drive flange at the trans had a pin hole in the spline seal, venting trans case heat into the boot. i used clamps on both ends do they sealed and no release. that one balooned up like a baloon!  still a better quality of material would be better. i have 7 more moog before i swap lol
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: fabr on June 16, 2020, 09:50:01 AM
don't clamp the small end.It needs to be able to slide on axle.
i
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 16, 2020, 02:39:51 PM
so i have been told. so the f150 axle is a larger od than 930 axles. so i have to at least use a zip tie or sand will get in there. the f150 is prob .125" larger od at max.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: Carlriddle on June 27, 2020, 09:19:52 AM
I had bought mine at O’Reilly they quit Carrying same and change the lifetime warranty. Swapped one. Precision brand new ones deft diff. Zip tie on axle.
DS no way I’d swap 7 more!!  Damn I thought u didn’t like cv grease. Bates next be done. Working on buying house so can bring car south to sort this elec issue for a trip. We will deff do next yr and like to make it a big St A one. Can’t wait for yvetttes face when she see how big those are lol.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 year of the chinese flu
Post by: dsrace on June 29, 2020, 08:52:37 AM
I had bought mine at O’Reilly they quit Carrying same and change the lifetime warranty. Swapped one. Precision brand new ones deft diff. Zip tie on axle.
DS no way I’d swap 7 more!!  Damn I thought u didn’t like cv grease. Bates next be done. Working on buying house so can bring car south to sort this elec issue for a trip. We will deff do next yr and like to make it a big St A one. Can’t wait for yvetttes face when she see how big those are lol.

i do but not as much as i dislike gear lube! got a bath in that once. so the boot that went this time is prob 3 to 4 years old.   we'll see how long it lasts but i'm not staying out of the bush's and trees  ;D that's just too much fun  LMAO LMAO
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on August 20, 2020, 09:56:02 AM
Any info on when/where Glenn's/fastcorvairs ashes will be spread? Any other info?
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on August 20, 2020, 10:40:02 AM
oct 15th during the dune trip. also about 8 people that will need shuttled to and from the location. we will start at cowboy camp to thunder road as it sounds.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on August 20, 2020, 10:49:42 AM
Any plans yet on time of day?
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on August 20, 2020, 11:13:42 AM
after mrs fast gets there and we shuttle whomever out. beyond that no time has been specified that i saw.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: deranged on September 09, 2020, 07:42:31 AM
So this fall trip is a GO!!

I know its late...lol.  So in regards to camping, I will have my truck, trailer and a tent.  Is this something I can put up on someones lot?  Obviously I will pay whatever, or would it be easier to just get a primitive site..as long as I can plug my coffee pot in on someones lot.  HAA.

I really am looking forward to this trip!!

Justin
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 10, 2020, 11:26:50 AM
so at this point i am at the far end site 624 i think. enemy doesnt have a spot for fri night so if no one on that end can squeeze him in then he may squeeze in with myself.  i am sure the rest of the group down on that end can squeeze you in. if not res a primitive site and plug your coffee pot in acrross the road.  at the rate the temps are dropping you might have to bunk with grimm anyway  ;D
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 10, 2020, 11:28:13 AM
i dont know about the rest of you but we haven't rose above 50* for highs since mon and lows have been 40*'s.  this a huge shock to the system when it goes from 95* to a high of 75* to a high of 48* lol  now i dont mind 55* to 75* at all. 48* and raining for 3 days gets old.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 12, 2020, 08:07:17 AM
other than the rain it's been great here. Spent a few days @ LS last week and going back Wednesday. I did get hit leaving north gate after dark last week by some jackass that thought his 1/2 was down the middle of the whoops entering the dunes. Jackass. I bet he didn't expect to hit a tank!  :m SOB didn't even stop.  I just had a bent beadlock ring but I bet the RZR didn't fare so well.  ;D 8) And you guys may wonder why I rarely go out at night. All the dickheads come out after sundown. At almost the same time another buggy(a friend of the wifes kid) got clipped enough to completely rip off the left rear suspension by a big white 4 seater. That dickhead just ran as well. He had to have had damage also . The rangers are "investigating". I think I know the buggy as a regular @ LS. I'm going to do some snooping when there this coming end of week.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 12, 2020, 09:37:32 PM
def have to be more careful at night. sadly a lot of drinking before several of them go out! glad not serious damage to yours but the other is not good! i hope you figure out who that was.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: deranged on September 14, 2020, 05:23:35 AM
Night duning is so much fun!  Especially when you have a really nice line going.  Also jumping is SUPER crazy at night too! 
If you have to drink before (during) you dune, you aren't doing it right!   
We had our annual "night run" up here in the mitten...basically the last weekend the dunes are open until 10pm.  we get an hour and a half of pure darkness.  Kinda cool.

I'm getting a tool and part list to get ready for the trip!

Justin
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 14, 2020, 06:09:52 AM
To each his own. I much prefer daytime riding.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: budlight69 on September 14, 2020, 08:59:15 AM
Night rides can be a blast, or you can really mess up and it takes forever to get everyone back in one or two pieces.  This happened one late night and for the life of us, we couldn't find sand highway to get back to the big dunes, then back to camp.  But looking back, we still had a blast! 
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 14, 2020, 10:37:28 AM
Eff that. BTDT too much as it is. Good hard ride , back in one piece is my idea of fun.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 14, 2020, 05:22:35 PM
holy crap i have never seen that pic before  rofl rofl looks about right for a night ride  :m

so fabr....your leading for the next night run  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 14, 2020, 07:08:32 PM
Phuck NO!! I don't mind tearing my stuff up if it is ME doing it. Too many idiots at night. I have enjoyed going out at night when there isn't anyone there. Pretty damned nice to just take a slow cruise. Yup,daylight for me.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 14, 2020, 07:21:25 PM
Phuck NO!! I don't mind tearing my stuff up if it is ME doing it. Too many idiots at night. I have enjoyed going out at night when there isn't anyone there. Pretty damned nice to just take a slow cruise. Yup,daylight for me.

yes it is but never seems to wind up slow for the entire run lol
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 14, 2020, 07:47:59 PM
I'm going to adopt the first run one hour after sunrise /one hour before sunset last ride protocol.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: deranged on September 15, 2020, 04:57:05 AM
To my defense, Silver Lake is so small, you can go around it in 6 min.  LOL!  Pretty easy to know where you are at. On Friday night, there was maybe 10 people on the dunes after dark and 7 of them were in our group.  I can see the big dunes being pretty dangerous at night.  If I do go out at night, it would be to a certain area to maybe jump a couple times. 
The sunset runs are nice.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 15, 2020, 06:41:01 AM
i do enjoy the night rides through the trails.  not a huge fan of running the dunes in the dark but at a slower pace those are fun too.  i enjoy the night trail rides more.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 15, 2020, 08:05:14 AM
to each his own.  We don't all like broccoli.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 15, 2020, 09:09:10 AM
to each his own.  We don't all like broccoli.

 ;D do not like any part of it starting with the smell  rofl
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 15, 2020, 11:23:29 AM
sort of like night riding is to me................. Drowning Drowning :D :D
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 15, 2020, 01:38:17 PM
i have a suspicion that the trip may be a little on the cool side. thats fine with me but will make for some chilly night rdes. winter seems to be coming early and makes sense with the sun in a cooling trend.   
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 15, 2020, 01:45:21 PM
Not looking forward to it .
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 17, 2020, 06:08:52 AM
who wants to have a group dinner or does everyone want to forgo that again dues to the chinese flu?   
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: deranged on September 17, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
Im up for a group dinner.  Can't wait to smoke some more pop-tarts  HAAA

Side note,
Who has RC cars?  I am going to bring my slash to play around when we are just sitting around camp. 

I am getting exited!  I am glad that I have that thick Michigan blood in case its cold.  LOL. 

Justin
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: deranged on September 17, 2020, 09:59:23 AM
Wes,
Will we see the big black beast this year!??!

Black buggies matter!

Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: Enemy on September 17, 2020, 02:36:21 PM
who wants to have a group dinner or does everyone want to forgo that again dues to the chinese flu?   

Im up for a group dinner.  Can't wait to smoke some more pop-tarts  HAAA

Side note,
Who has RC cars?  I am going to bring my slash to play around when we are just sitting around camp. 
Justin

I aint afraid of no ghost! Kung Flu/Woo Flew..
Better put my Face Diaper on after typing that, the censors may catch the dissent in my mood..


Cheese steak filly, and pulled pork slider fixins' on my menu!

I have an old T/E maxx hybrid I need to blow the cobs out of.. I will bring it down!


Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 17, 2020, 07:32:55 PM
Eff the Chinese flu. Let's eat!!
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 17, 2020, 07:36:59 PM
Wes,
Will we see the big black beast this year!??!

Black buggies matter!
it's blue now. Blue buggies matter too you know!!  Matter of fact, it's here now and having a blast. Has about 600 miles on it now.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 18, 2020, 10:08:47 AM
thrusday night on the dinner? i'll be there wens nights as well just not sure who else will be.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on September 18, 2020, 08:46:18 PM
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: Grimm Reaper Racing on September 18, 2020, 10:50:42 PM
Thursday night sounds good to me. I'll be bringing some 24 hour smoked BBQ beans, and I'll ask my wife to make a dessert.

Justin, I'll bring my 1/8 scale Tekno buggy. I think I even have some paddles for it somewhere.

The kids and I are camping in the toy hauler for the first time tonight. Looking forward to bringing it down to the dunes.
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Post by: fabr on September 18, 2020, 11:40:51 PM
Great!!
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Post by: dsrace on September 19, 2020, 07:38:33 AM
grimm , i think you'll enjoy that toyhauler.  utv take over is underway right now. based on the pics i have seen, it looks like the dunes are full and tore up lol
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Post by: BrianN on September 19, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
You must be seeing pics from some other Little Sahara. There are only five people here(Million!)
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Post by: dsrace on September 20, 2020, 10:39:49 AM
 LMAO LMAO so did you meet up and run with fabr? he's there. douggy is too as well as a couple of my friends from omaha neb. joe runs an n/a v8 4 seater with i think a super man graphic or maybe he changed i don't remember anymore.
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Post by: fabr on September 20, 2020, 05:40:09 PM
I only hit the sand 2 times. Once on Saturday when the sand had so many fleas you couldn't find a free spot to scratch. Today  was really fun though. 99% of the fleas were gone.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 21, 2020, 08:36:02 AM
did you see brianN out there? so your a brave man running down the middle of that mess. that is too many idiots in one spot for myself! glad you had fun, that is the main goal
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Post by: fabr on September 21, 2020, 10:16:53 AM
Never saw him. I just putted out when the fleas were on the dunes. There was no way to dune like we do. Sunday was great. Pretty much back to normal.
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Post by: dsrace on September 21, 2020, 12:01:44 PM
lol well brianN.....why didnt you go find fabr on your sun morning drive??  ;D
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Post by: fabr on September 21, 2020, 12:09:11 PM
Probably couldn't catch up.........,..  :D
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Post by: BrianN on September 21, 2020, 04:04:30 PM
Yes, I didn't want to inconvenience anyone with my slow a$$. 
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Post by: dsrace on September 21, 2020, 08:20:41 PM
 :m   2nd gear wheelies!!  went from geared too high n/a ( i know that pain) to 2nd gear wheelies with only 6 psi boost.  :m    :nw there  ;D
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Post by: fabr on September 21, 2020, 09:46:28 PM
Sorry to have missed you brian!!
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Post by: dsrace on September 22, 2020, 06:07:38 AM
Sorry to have missed you brian!!

honestly i am surprised you found room to run at all .  cannot imagine how tore up that sand was.
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Post by: dsrace on September 22, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
utv take over
(https://i.postimg.cc/HVHqFJxH/120041217-2685643151674783-6524895530670573820-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVHqFJxH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCcGmTBN/120091021-2685643338341431-6787964053506161827-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCcGmTBN)
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Post by: fabr on September 22, 2020, 06:20:54 PM
Fleas!! Nothing but sand fleas~~~~!!!!!! Sand fleas on meth!!!!! They were everywhere.
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Post by: dsrace on September 23, 2020, 10:56:25 AM
 LMAO :m
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Post by: Sandwitch on September 25, 2020, 10:09:53 AM


Right now I can't see any reason I won't be at the dunes for Fastcorvair's last ride.
My buggy is 99 percent together. But everyone know how new builds are, a leak here and a short wire there and all of the little fires you have to put out.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YjXv2vb6/Bitch-is-back.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YjXv2vb6)
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Post by: fabr on September 25, 2020, 11:05:35 AM
Cool!! Glenn expects you to be there!     Car looks really good too!!!!!
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Post by: dsrace on September 26, 2020, 06:17:48 AM
Sandwitch , that looks damn good!!  and yes we all know he joys of the maiden voyage lol on the up side you'll have friends to help supervise possible repairs  LMAO
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Post by: Carlriddle on September 26, 2020, 06:54:30 AM
Really bummed we won’t be there in person, closing on new home weekend before. 😊. So we will participate by social distance being there along with Fast in spirit!  Truely to be a great trip. May the weather be great and the wind blow ya tracks smooth.
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Post by: Lance-W on September 28, 2020, 07:01:01 PM
I need a place to park the big trailer Oct 14th thru ?   Anybody have room for the aircraft carrier ?  :)
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Post by: Enemy on September 28, 2020, 08:57:16 PM
You have to get your thread count to 1000 before anybody will help you with this Lance.

 ;D
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Post by: dsrace on September 29, 2020, 09:27:43 AM
i wasnt able to get a site down with everyone else. i am not sure who all is on that end. did you ask doug?  i am not sure but i think enemy may have to pull in my slip friday. if he doesnt then your more than welcome to share the slip.   
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Post by: dsrace on September 29, 2020, 01:49:42 PM
well lance, you can squeeze in with us.  my site has a 30 and 50 amp socket.  i am sure the ranger will stop and want extra for two trailers in one spot. you can cover that.  site 624, i will have to check but i should have it booked for tues evening thru sat morning.
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Post by: Grimm Reaper Racing on September 29, 2020, 10:32:07 PM
I could only get a site for Tues and Wed, so I too was hoping someone might be willing to share a spot for Thursday and Friday night...

I've got a small 18' toy hauler with 30 Amp, so I won't take too much room or power.😁
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Post by: Lance-W on September 30, 2020, 05:51:31 AM
I found a spot with the Hillhouse's  Thank you all for trying to accommodate my very late request.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: Lance-W on September 30, 2020, 05:54:55 AM
I could only get a site for Tues and Wed, so I too was hoping someone might be willing to share a spot for Thursday and Friday night...

I've got a small 18' toy hauler with 30 Amp, so I won't take too much room or power.😁

Brian tells me the park has recently enlarged the "primitive" spots.  They are available (or at least they were yesterday).  Just bring a hose to fill your water and a long extension cord ?
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on September 30, 2020, 09:42:08 AM
I could only get a site for Tues and Wed, so I too was hoping someone might be willing to share a spot for Thursday and Friday night...

I've got a small 18' toy hauler with 30 Amp, so I won't take too much room or power.😁

you can pull in to our site.   
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Post by: Grimm Reaper Racing on September 30, 2020, 12:06:34 PM
You're a good American Brian! I'll be sure to grab a hose splitter and your favorite dark beer. 😁👍
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Post by: dsrace on September 30, 2020, 07:00:18 PM
 LMAO you can pour the dark beer out  LMAO
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Post by: deranged on October 01, 2020, 05:00:41 AM
More Dragons Milk for Doug and I LOL!!!

Does anyone want any particular Michigan beer?  I will grab some. 

Justin
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Post by: dsrace on October 01, 2020, 07:15:23 AM
i think budlight likes to try those micro brewery beer.  dragons discharge i mean dragons milk    ;D        budlight......you have been waaaaaaaay to quiet, its normal for you  ;) :m
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Post by: Carlriddle on October 03, 2020, 05:20:07 AM
Jack Daniels. That Brian’s drink of choice  :nw
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Post by: dsrace on October 05, 2020, 02:28:55 PM
that is true
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Post by: dsrace on October 09, 2020, 08:15:29 AM
with a little luck i may cut out tues noonish.   so sounds like a group dinner thurs evening.  i would imagine the time will be decided wens night. 
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Post by: dsrace on October 12, 2020, 02:41:30 PM
ok, just so everyone knows, group dinner is thurs night, pot luck.
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Post by: fabr on October 12, 2020, 08:52:53 PM
Any other tidbits of info you wish to pass along?
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Post by: dsrace on October 13, 2020, 09:34:20 AM
that was just a reminder as it was decided on page 5.  ;D
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Post by: dsrace on October 18, 2020, 06:29:00 AM
post up the pics boys
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Post by: dsrace on October 20, 2020, 10:34:18 AM
more pics
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Post by: deranged on October 20, 2020, 12:22:38 PM
Here is a video of one of the group rides! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSr9fcT0Sk&t=35s
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Post by: fabr on October 20, 2020, 05:30:20 PM
Great vid! Love the mph and course indicators on screen.
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Post by: Grimm Reaper Racing on October 20, 2020, 08:26:30 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/w76Hf6ty/20201015-232837.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w76Hf6ty)

(https://i.postimg.cc/JyBWD0Fg/20201016-182309.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JyBWD0Fg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Yv077bzt/20201016-182343.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yv077bzt)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dL4FgzdW/20201016-183307.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dL4FgzdW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HrNgkX6X/20201016-183638.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HrNgkX6X)
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Post by: dsrace on October 22, 2020, 06:45:03 AM
very nice pics grimm. enemy did you take any pictures?
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Post by: deranged on October 22, 2020, 06:49:54 AM
AWESOME Pictures Adam!
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Post by: deranged on October 22, 2020, 09:42:10 AM
Part 2 of the ride.  This time I must not of had a GPS signal as the GPS data was not there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9SmyQ0oCYc
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Post by: dsrace on October 22, 2020, 11:30:56 AM
very high res!! love it


 :D enemy  ;D why were you holding deranged up in the trails?  rofl  :m just kiddin


and btw enemy, your rear suspension looked like it soaked up all of those drops very well. i know that was only one occupant but still.
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Post by: fabr on October 22, 2020, 02:11:10 PM
Good vid again. What cam are you using? Someday I'll get somewhere closer to the front of our rides. I like seeing you guys so I rarely get to see any vid of me. It looked like your suspension was pretty well dialed for LS!
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Post by: dsrace on October 23, 2020, 06:00:47 AM
in the water proof case my mic sucks  so i picked youtube approved songs lol. so here is hero 2 go pro and as you can see deranged hero 9 is a better picture.  i am really liking that hero 9.

here you go fabr

https://youtu.be/Js_3-DzOHBw
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Post by: deranged on October 23, 2020, 10:03:03 AM
NIIICE job on the camera angles!  And I do believe that blue is a superb color out there!  HAAA

BUT WAIT, THERE IS MORE!
Part 3! and I also found a part 1.5..lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn54s5NqJYc&t=333s
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Post by: dsrace on October 23, 2020, 12:46:53 PM
can you see the veiwing angle of the hero 9 on your phone?
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on October 23, 2020, 06:21:07 PM
Thanks Brian! That's by far the most/best footage I have yet seen of any of my rides. I really appreciate it. Was the roost as bad as it looked at times? Allen is the king of roost in our group for sure. speaking of Allen,I left my cams at LS. Dumb ass. Oh well I have some good footage following Allen last trip that I'm pretty sure just looks like a wall of sand. :m
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Post by: fabr on October 23, 2020, 06:35:27 PM
ANother great vid deranged. I wish I had pulled in front of you now! LOL!!
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Post by: dsrace on October 24, 2020, 06:00:52 AM
after having followed allan since 2004...... no ones roost is that bad  :m :m  fabr your rail does throw it back for sure but the worst for sure. my batt went dead at the end and i never charged it.
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Post by: dsrace on October 24, 2020, 06:02:02 AM
ANother great vid deranged. I wish I had pulled in front of you now! LOL!!

i do believe santa will be bringing me a hero 9 for xmas  ;D ;)  hard to believe that the her0 2 i have was the latest and greatest 10 years ago  :m
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Post by: fabr on October 24, 2020, 06:57:19 AM
What's hard to believe is that Replay had far better vid quality and sound than gopro for all that time yet still went out of business. Had Replay not used Apple QuickTime vid software I believe they would have easily won the war with gopro.
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Post by: Enemy on October 24, 2020, 01:25:14 PM
Baddass vids!! Gps speed can't keep up with a busa ;D Twice now I got to see Lance and Glenn roost Brian with wet sand bolders.

I cant get sound to work on my Replay, and didn't even get it out of the bag. It is a great picture for sure, but sure does piss a guy off with the interface! My journey home involved another tire change on the trailer, the spare I put on when I got to LS went off with full earth shaking glory north of Wilson KS. Guy behind me pulled over and with an eye wide open smile said "Ya lost a trailer tire back there!"
I said "Ya felt that too!!??"
He said it looked like I hit a mine the way the trailer tilted lol.. Never a dull moment!
Just like the entire trip!, had a blast with you all like always!!

The ONLY picture I took..
sent from my Lg VGX7600 flip phone with dual squirrel cage processors.
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Post by: fabr on October 24, 2020, 03:36:38 PM
All 4 of my replays still work like new. Too bad Apple quicktime is a thing of the past now and it takes a long time to convert the files. I don't know if I can edit anything now either. I hadn't used them for over 3 years and was surprised the batteries still work like new as well. I guess when I head back down in a couple weeks I will see if I can edit and post.  I just hate to go to gopro and the big ass unnecessary size of the damn things but it appears that they now have good lenses and sound. If I can edit my replay files I'll just use them till they die. 1080 is pretty good but of course,4 or 5K like the hero9 is a LOT better.
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Post by: dsrace on October 24, 2020, 05:32:24 PM
i know glenn enjoyed getting me lol i dont think lance knew i was behind him but he got me good. wet sand hurts  rofl
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Post by: fabr on October 24, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
One word. Windshield.
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Post by: dsrace on October 24, 2020, 07:53:42 PM
 :m

well i have a hero 9 coming.  i just couldn't help it. time to retire the hero 2's.
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Post by: fabr on October 26, 2020, 08:13:48 PM
 2019 with Fastcorvairs

https://youtu.be/EOo1a1YU0Xg
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Post by: dsrace on October 29, 2020, 06:52:17 AM
that was a great run on that trip! also no sxsns were injured during the filming  LMAO  LMAO
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Post by: fabr on October 29, 2020, 07:34:15 AM
LOL!!!! You guys tried to kill one though! LOL!!!    Yes,it was a great run and one of the last for Glenn with the entire DTS group. Very glad I took the YXZ out for it.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on October 29, 2020, 08:08:33 AM
:m

well i have a hero 9 coming.  i just couldn't help it. time to retire the hero 2's.
Did you buy from gopro to hopefully get one with the fixes already done? Have they come out with a remote control yet? For around 500 bux I'll wait for all the whistles and bells to be integrated. I do believe I'll buy one in a few months after they get all the upgrades done. The 2.7 /4/5K makes for some killer vid quality compared to 1080 and they seem to have gotten the fisheye out. I wonder about the extra wide angle of big lens that is an option having the fisheye though.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on October 29, 2020, 08:14:42 AM
The replaceable lens is a nice touch finally. No need for a separate case unless you are deep diving and need the extra 150 deep waterproof rating.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on October 29, 2020, 11:31:34 AM
i dont know about a remote but you can pair your smart phone and control it that way.  i am not sure about new updates but we will see. saw bad reviews on hero 8 and one was no replacement lens! need the lens and no case as that distorts the pic. they do not yet have them in stock but do offer the wider angle lens. so my wife caught a special they had so she got it bought for $299 with shipping. need to get there tri pod mount to bolt it to my roof. i will need to buy a few replacement lens as well. did you see the frame rate at 2.7k??!! amazing but the horizon lock was the feature i really liked.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: dsrace on October 29, 2020, 11:34:12 AM
so sadly that was his last group ride. we were all glad you jumped in with the yamaha.  the group trips just wont be the same.
Title: Re: LS fall trip Oct 13-18 2020 Dedicated To Fastcorvairs Memory
Post by: fabr on October 29, 2020, 09:05:10 PM
We owe it to him to keep the tradition going for as long as possible. We need to try and expand our group as well. I am starting to seek out some new people that I know of from around here. I hope they will join in.