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Re: Buggy leaf questions
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2009, 09:14:32 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2009, 12:00:52 PM »
1/4 elliptical is a 1/2 spring...

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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2009, 12:44:23 PM »
Yep,and I think that's what he's talking about. I may have misunderstood.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2009, 12:45:40 PM »
I THINK they use 1/4 elips to allow the spring to closely follow the arc of the suspension to gain longer travel. I could be wrong on that also tho.
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2009, 02:49:27 PM »
After rereading as you suggested, I think he is just talking bolting two springs together to form an elipse if you would call it... I think some horse and carriage type buggys are like that..
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2009, 03:50:47 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2009, 07:04:53 PM »
I remember teaching Fred and Barney a few things. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2009, 07:05:31 PM »
And Betty was pretty effin HOT also!
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Re: Buggy leaf questions
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2009, 09:21:48 PM »
Ok, the 1/4 elliptical spring that I am talking about is designed this way.  Take your typical leaf spring suspension, no transverse spring, just your typical pickup solid axle.  Now instead of having the shackle mount to the frame, have it mounted to an upside-down half leaf that is attached to the frame directly above the middle of the spring pack.  The theory behind this design is that the 1/4 leaf will droop a lot farther down then having the pack mounted to the frame, letting almost twice the articulation.  I know the design well enough to do it on my own rig, but I haven't heard the ups (other then massive articulation gains) and, more importantly, the downs of this design.  I have seen this leaf suspension design max out RTI ramps, and seen pictures of them used on the trail, but never actually talked to someone with personal experience with this setup.

The questions that I have specifically for this design are, 1 - is a panhard bar / track bar necessary with this style suspension, 2 - does it have a very negative effect on the load capacity of the truck / buggy. 
I'm not looking to run it like a half ton truck, but it will take a trailer through the woods while I am making my trails.  Although I have access to quite a bunch of tractors and heavy equipment to do so, I just like the idea of cutting the trail as I go!
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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2009, 10:44:31 PM »
A ny time i have seen anything like that, they use an actual arm that lets the shackle pivot down... But have only seen in pictures etc... I would think that you would want to have links from the top center of the pig that travel forward and outward to the chassis, Cant think of the tech name for this setup...A pan hard bar would screw everything all up
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2009, 08:25:59 AM »
Wishbone. There's plenty of info on the web about this setup. Not how I'd do it but it is a proven method.
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Re: Buggy leaf questions
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2009, 08:48:33 AM »
Quote from: Masterfabr on June 07, 2009, 08:25:59 AM
Wishbone. There's plenty of info on the web about this setup. Not how I'd do it but it is a proven method.

How would you do it if you were gonna go for huge articulation?
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2009, 12:20:40 PM »
I'm not qualified to even have a real opinion. I don't build the things. I just know what a 1/4 elip spring is. ;D ;D
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