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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Controls and Electrical => Topic started by: cleppla on February 24, 2009, 06:53:10 PM

Title: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: cleppla on February 24, 2009, 06:53:10 PM: Just scouring the internets for components that would work with my build. I came across plastic brakeline. Any thoughts on how this will work for a barracuda??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lightweight-25-ft-Nylon-Brake-Line-Kit-Brass-Fittings_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33562QQihZ014QQitemZ330309984215QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lightweight-25-ft-Nylon-Brake-Line-Kit-Brass-Fittings_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33562QQihZ014QQitemZ330309984215QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: artie on edge on February 24, 2009, 07:02:02 PM: Hey mate, for a car the size of a Cuda you should stay away from this stuff. Its designed for small vehicle use (read that as go karts) which dont have the hydraulic advantage our systems use and as they are low weight they require less force to stop them.

Stick with the braided line or straight steel line in the non movement areas.

IM (humble) O... of course... ;D
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: fabr on February 24, 2009, 07:25:55 PM: Although I would never consider using it myself it is perfectly acceptable for your use.The burst pressure is 1900 PSI .Any brake system should not exceed 1500PSI max and more in the line of 800-100PSI as a rule of thumb is normal.If more line pressure than that is necessary then you have too small wheel cylinders.
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: fabr on February 24, 2009, 07:27:17 PM: I stay with steel and braided(as little as possible) tho.
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: Admin on February 24, 2009, 07:34:23 PM: i used it on the car i built, and it worked just fine... ;D
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: Engineer on February 24, 2009, 07:49:37 PM: Keep it away from heat sources!

My biggest concern would be Tech at a race. I don't know if your thinking of entering any sanctioned events, but if you ever wanted to the tech guys might not like it. I find that when the tech guys don't like something, it doesn't matter what its rated or how suitable it is.
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: fabr on February 24, 2009, 07:52:20 PM: +2
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: cleppla on February 24, 2009, 07:59:04 PM: Quote from: Engineer on February 24, 2009, 07:49:37 PM
Keep it away from heat sources!

My biggest concern would be Tech at a race. I don't know if your thinking of entering any sanctioned events, but if you ever wanted to the tech guys might not like it. I find that when the tech guys don't like something, it doesn't matter what its rated or how suitable it is.

No sanctioned racing here. Just pure personal fun!

Chris
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: fabr on February 24, 2009, 08:04:41 PM: Plaastic is cheap and easy then.Do heed engineers warning though about heat sources tho.
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: Admin on February 24, 2009, 08:09:49 PM: they run that line in late model race cars... ;D
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: cleppla on February 24, 2009, 08:17:32 PM: Yeah I seen that with the IMCA. Seems like it might work. I had wondered how well other people might have fair if they used them.

Chris
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: Admin on February 24, 2009, 08:18:15 PM: I did not use them long, let me know what you find, i sell it and stainless lines as well...
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: Admin on February 24, 2009, 08:21:13 PM: for example i have a nylon line kit for 30, and a 48" stainless an 4 line for 16..
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: SPEC on February 24, 2009, 09:02:33 PM: Something else on the plastic brake lines is... scuffing, kinking. and overheating from the caliper...
I'll be the 1st to tell you it is cheaper and easier to route than hard lines, But is not feasable if your thinking of using it out to the fronts or rears in an outboard situation...Smalldebris, and the vibration/wheel movement weatrs it out quickly
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: fabr on February 24, 2009, 09:12:37 PM: Good point.
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: artie on edge on February 25, 2009, 12:25:37 AM: And I have to apologise to Cleppla, I jumped in with my comments afore I had read the details of the product you were suggesting. My bad. :-[ I know working with steel tubing is a pain but the results are worth it in the longer run. Simply add the braided stuff at moving points and your good ( Im sorry if this suggestion lacks the neccessary BLING tho..)
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: SPEC on February 25, 2009, 04:43:33 AM: Quote from: Artie on edge on February 25, 2009, 12:25:37 AM
And I have to apologise to Cleppla, I jumped in with my comments afore I had read the details of the product you were suggesting. My bad. :-[ I know working with steel tubing is a pain but the results are worth it in the longer run. Simply add the braided stuff at moving points and your good ( Im sorry if this suggestion lacks the neccessary BLING tho..)

Bling is for the sand guys ;D
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: Admin on February 25, 2009, 05:42:06 AM: Quote from: Spec on February 25, 2009, 04:43:33 AM

Bling is for the sand guys ;D

Agreed... ;D
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: fabr on February 25, 2009, 05:48:02 AM: Braided is bling.Plastic is practical. ;D
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: SPEC on February 25, 2009, 06:27:56 AM: Yup...I run the steel lines to rear and modded stock rubber out to the front...
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: fabr on February 25, 2009, 06:53:04 AM: they all work fine tho.
Title: Re: Plastic Brakeline?
Post by: Voodoochikin04 on May 04, 2009, 05:52:48 PM: we had some 1/8" nylon line at my old job that was rated for 8000psi... it always came in some kits they ordered but we never used it.. wish i have gotten a roll...