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Title: Best steering mount
Post by: Punkur67 on November 04, 2008, 07:52:55 AM
What are you guys doing for your steering shaft mounts. I ran one of the billet clamp on style on my old car but it got worn out. I think I am going to run a set of 3/4 heims this time but wanted to know what you are all using before I decide.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: plkracer on November 04, 2008, 01:06:45 PM
I'm running a short 6 inch piece of 1-1/4 tube with two umhw bushings that I made. Works good. I didn't make it too strong incase it needs to break in a crash.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: 405dentech on November 04, 2008, 02:25:39 PM
I order a ton of parts for my buggy right after i bought and ended up getting one of the tilt setups. Pretty gay lookin.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: 405dentech on November 04, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
Also it won't even tilt unless i cut the steering shaft and weld in a u-joint right in front of the mount. As i said looks gay.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Punkur67 on November 04, 2008, 03:40:41 PM
Also it won't even tilt unless i cut the steering shaft and weld in a u-joint right in front of the mount. As i said looks gay.
Not a bad Idea to move them anyway. That looks like a bit much on your u joint angles. The less angle the beter. I always put the u joints as far away as possible from eachother
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Rick S. on November 04, 2008, 05:17:33 PM
I make my own using aluminum two piece shaft collars, aluminum spacer blocks, and a two piece delrin bushing. This way my mount can be split in half for ease of assembly.
I originally purchased a McMaster-Carr shaft mount with a urethane bushing, but I felt it was too sticky. So this was what I came up with.  If you use delrin bushings don't powdercoat the steering shaft where it passes through the bushing. It will gum up quick and make your steering real tight. I found that out on my first trip to Silver lake. The steering gummed up so bad I could hardly turn the wheel. The quick fix was loosening up the collars, and I was able to ride the rest of the day.
I also boot and grease my steering joints by adding capillaries in the steering shaft next to the joints. all of this is probably overkill, but I like doing things my own way.
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Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: 405dentech on November 04, 2008, 06:15:22 PM
Damn that's nice. Killer work Rick. mm:
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: fabr on November 04, 2008, 07:33:35 PM
Top shelf workmanship for sure.Very nice.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: SPEC on November 05, 2008, 05:54:53 AM
Wow Rick that is awesome looking
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: boltz2012 on November 05, 2008, 10:25:28 AM
Thats beechin Rick. I wish i had half the talent and money you do.... ;D Oh and tools too... ;D ;D
Not trying to jack the thread but what is the air compressor looking thing? Looks like the air compressor for my air brush.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Rick S. on November 05, 2008, 10:48:39 AM
That was the compressor for an air shifter that I designed for that buggy.
It was a complete pneumatic system. Worked well, but I rarely used it. It did get lots of looks though. I mounted the valves to the steering wheel. The air lines ran into the steering column and then exited just after the first steering bushing. They wraped back and forth around the column when you turned the wheel.
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Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: fabr on November 05, 2008, 11:00:20 AM
i ran an electric shifter and HATED it.I took it off the first week.It had no "feel" to it.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Rick S. on November 05, 2008, 02:02:37 PM
I agree 100%.  I'll never do another.
Not sure how the electric ones work, but mine just went for the ride if you chose not to use it.
The cylinder was always exhausting until you hit a button.
 
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: fabr on November 05, 2008, 02:33:50 PM
It was a Translogic unit. Used a high rpm motor to drive the up/down shift.
Very nice ,high quality unit.Never do anything like it again.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Voodoochikin04 on November 12, 2008, 01:02:22 PM
hey rick.... what r&p are you using?
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Rick S. on November 12, 2008, 05:11:46 PM
I think it's from a Dodge Colt. (Manual steering rack) I don't know what year. It looks just like the Hyundai Excell rack that I used on my 954 Piranha.
I got the Colt rack from rexpo. I'm not sure if he's a member here yet.
He can tell you who to buy them from on EBay.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Voodoochikin04 on November 12, 2008, 07:21:55 PM
it must have been shortened huh?
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Rick S. on November 13, 2008, 07:46:07 PM
Yes, I shortened it.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Voodoochikin04 on November 25, 2008, 01:47:32 PM
was it very hard or not? any pictures of the process?
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Rick S. on November 25, 2008, 04:36:21 PM
It's not too difficult. I don't have any pics. of the process.
I think rxpo has some pics of how it's done.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: plkracer on November 26, 2008, 12:56:30 AM
I know there is a thread on MBN.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: fabr on November 26, 2008, 08:15:50 PM
such dirty mouth you have plk.  :l Shame on you using a 3 letter word.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: 405dentech on November 26, 2008, 11:06:33 PM
I know there is a thread on MBN.
What is that the ULTIMATE BUGGY SITE??? ;D That site sucks. it is cool if you want to argue about nothing..........There is good info there but hard to get a straight answer.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Carlriddle on November 27, 2008, 05:39:28 AM
try this one, found on Edge site year or so ago, took nearly that long to find again.

http://www.sadik.net/gokart/plans/steering.htm (http://www.sadik.net/gokart/plans/steering.htm)

Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Punkur67 on December 17, 2008, 04:36:47 PM
So here is what I cam up with for my mount. I used 2- 3/4" heim joints and made some tabs. This is Very tight and sturdy. My old setup had a brass bushing that had tons of slop in it after a couple of trips. Kind of expensive setup but I had a bunch of left over QA1 heims from the old car so it was free to me.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Engineer on December 17, 2008, 06:37:59 PM
Nice!

And a bit adjustable!
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Rick S. on December 17, 2008, 06:46:30 PM
Nice job. Making do with what you have. I love it.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Punkur67 on December 17, 2008, 07:11:42 PM
This setup is WAY beter than that stupd billet clamp on deal that I spent $60 on by far. Much more work than just clamping something on but a way beter product in the end.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: fabr on December 17, 2008, 07:55:31 PM
I've done all my cars that way.As far as I'm concerned it's the best way by far.
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Punkur67 on December 17, 2008, 08:05:07 PM
Why didnt you give me the idea when I asked Fabr? Made me figure it out the hard way! :P
Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Yoshi on December 18, 2008, 07:29:41 AM
I've always ran the quick disconnect setup from gear one.  It's includes the billet housung with bearings, about 16" of 3/4 shaft with splines on one end and a quick disconnect coupler....



Title: Re: Best steering mount
Post by: Punkur67 on December 18, 2008, 05:39:08 PM
That thing looks much nicer than the cheap foriegn made pos I had. Bearings are a good idea, way beter than bushings. I might machine out the one I have for a set of bearings and use it on my next build
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