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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #105 on: April 05, 2018, 01:41:36 PM »
you'll be running that tonight.
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #106 on: April 05, 2018, 08:21:10 PM »
got a late start this afternoon. Fire up is tomorrow now. On a dumbass is me moment,I shot tranny fluid all down my leg from the hip down.  5:  Yup,brain fart thing. Only dumped about 2 quarts all over the floor and myself. :m  Damn that pump puts out like a horny teenage girl friend.Had to disconnect the lines from the coolers to get clearance for drill to spin the dry sump to prime engine. Being a total brainless doofus I wasn't thinking the damn dry sump pump also has the tranny pump in one section. Bet I don't forget that again. :nw LMAO
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #107 on: April 07, 2018, 12:09:55 PM »
vroom,vroom.
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #108 on: April 07, 2018, 01:03:51 PM »

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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #109 on: April 07, 2018, 02:50:06 PM »
i just hate when that happens! lol and glad you got it running now just have to find a co pilot on the sand to get it tuned  ;D
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #110 on: April 29, 2018, 07:39:53 PM »
and the friggen saga continues.   beathorse.gif~c200. Engine coming out tomorrow and tear down hopefully tomorrow as well. WTH the hell it is this time????? Leak down definitely indicates piston damage again and a head gasket as well.  NEVER in my life has this happened to me. I guess my luck just ran out. I guess it happens to everyone sooner or later though.
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #111 on: April 30, 2018, 07:45:39 PM »
It only takes 7 hours to get the damn engine out and another hour to get all the stuff off so the intake can be removed. Here's what I found. WTH?????? I have always used Fel-Pro 1034@.041 compressed thickness. This time I used Fel-Pro 1044@ .051 compressed since the pistons JE sent had a.010 higher deck dimension.  That is the only thing different from what I have ever done before. Never had a head gasket issue-ever. Wellll,there's always a first time,huh. BOTH sides have let go.Think I'll give MLS(multi layer steel) a shot this time. This is BS. I may be lucky enough to have not hurt any parts since I caught it almost the second it happened. Pics are of the passenger side completely blown. Drivers side was just beginning to push out.
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #112 on: April 30, 2018, 09:27:08 PM »
wow! i have always used felpro w/o issue but always a first! hopefully it didnt hurt anyother parts.
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #113 on: April 30, 2018, 09:34:20 PM »
ditto!!!!!
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #114 on: May 01, 2018, 07:28:54 AM »
Never seen a head gasket blow out like that.  At least you don’t have any big engine rebuild! 

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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #115 on: May 01, 2018, 08:02:15 AM »
I probably caught it in time-hopefully. The challenge is to now diagnose why it happened. The other bank was just beginning to blow out as well.  ?????
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #116 on: May 01, 2018, 08:05:24 AM »
Damn, that is the shits for sure. Same here on Felpro, used them on everything and zero issues unless overboost on garbage fuel happened lol (only took one time to learn that lesson)
So on the MLS gasket... Do the heads and block need a different surface finish on them to use? I ask because I was questioned on what specific type of gasket I was using before having the deck finished on my last motor. Never realized a different grit was used between the two, still don't quite understand why..
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #117 on: May 01, 2018, 08:37:39 AM »
Damn, that is the shits for sure. Same here on Felpro, used them on everything and zero issues unless overboost on garbage fuel happened lol (only took one time to learn that lesson)
So on the MLS gasket... Do the heads and block need a different surface finish on them to use? I ask because I was questioned on what specific type of gasket I was using before having the deck finished on my last motor. Never realized a different grit was used between the two, still don't quite understand why..
MLS require a very smooth finish. I have always surfaced my heads for the F-P's the same smooth finish as well. SOME think a coarser finish helps hold a fiber gasket in place better. SOME,myself included, think the rougher surface will erode the gasket away when used with alum heads / iron block. I've put literally hundreds of alum/iron combinations together for customers without a single failure. The only difference this time was the use of the .010 thicker version of the same gasket to gain a bit of piston to head clearance. These F-P's have the preflattened wire fire ring that is nearly as good as a wire o-ring and does not brinnel the alum head.  I will add that when I received the thicker gaskets that they just did not have the same "feel" as the ones I have always used. Maybe the facings aren't as dense. Hell ,I don't know but I will put a call in to F-P tech.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #118 on: May 01, 2018, 09:04:37 AM »
how much actual run time do you have on this engine with these blown\squeezed out head gaskets?
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Re: Water,Water Everywhere or WTF??????
« Reply #119 on: May 01, 2018, 09:05:31 AM »
maybe 3 minutes total.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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