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Offline Wyattboche

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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2009, 09:35:09 PM »
So on the RZR's or any side by sides, how can they design there chassis without having side doors or anything for support? I just thought it would be easier geting in and out if the bars weren't there. Maybe I won't do the side doors? ????
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2009, 06:08:40 AM »
Do the doors. It just takes a bit of a different cage design. Look at the smart car crash vid. It shows that a strong cockpit with operating doors is completely doable.
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2009, 10:59:36 AM »
fabr- what would you suggest for hinges and a latch?
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2009, 11:19:21 AM »
Quote from: Wyattboche on August 11, 2009, 09:35:09 PM
So on the RZR's or any side by sides, how can they design there chassis without having side doors or anything for support? I just thought it would be easier geting in and out if the bars weren't there. Maybe I won't do the side doors? ????

To get the strength they likely use heavier metal below and the roll cage above.

I would wonder how easy a RZR might fold in the middle if it was taken across rough terrain at speed with no roll cage to support it.
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2009, 12:37:58 PM »
Check out the July\August sand sports mag.  Page 36 and37. Say no more. Could be a door skin over the tubing if you liked. I think there is a complet build log on the buggy some where.  I'll look. If I remember he made neat latches that slid in and out of the top rail.
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2009, 04:28:22 PM »
Quote from: Wyattboche on August 12, 2009, 10:59:36 AM
fabr- what would you suggest for hinges and a latch?
For the latch I'd suggest a camburg tube connector with a tube slipped over it for retention in place of the bolt. The hinges would be just double shear mounted similar to an A-arm mount.
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2009, 04:32:17 PM »
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2009, 04:34:16 PM »
Spring load the slip tube and you got a bulletproof latch that can handle tension and compression loads.. If you want more than one then a simple interlock could be done.
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2009, 08:23:30 PM »
Thanks, for the quick response. I knew you would come up with something. aa:
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2009, 08:31:58 PM »
Where there's a will there's a way! :m I say go for it.East entry/exit! Cool!!!
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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2009, 10:03:26 PM »
Quote from: Wyattboche on August 11, 2009, 09:35:09 PM
So on the RZR's or any side by sides, how can they design there chassis without having side doors or anything for support? I just thought it would be easier geting in and out if the bars weren't there. Maybe I won't do the side doors? ????

Well there are a lot of lawsuits in progress as we speak because of the side-by-sides and the doors (or lack thereof) At first, I don't think there was any structure to protect an occupant in a side-by-side was there??
But the brains and ideas are in motion to get the door job done safely now!  :)



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Re: Going to build 2 seater buggy need opinions
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2009, 10:14:08 PM »
I think the biggest problem with the no doors and the lawsuits was arms and LEGS especially flopping out and getting crushed in a flip or roll or tip over. Not the cage itself collapsing or anything like that. Just body parts being able to flop out.

Much of the cure is just a webbing strap across the doors to hold the riders body parts inside the existing cage.
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