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Title: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Blue Dragon on November 07, 2011, 01:20:33 PM: Start with a small remote 4x4 transfer case like the Suzuki. Then:
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Blue Dragon on November 07, 2011, 01:36:07 PM: Some pictures (ive just worked out this should be in the motorcycle section, anyone know how to move it please ?)
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Wyattboche on November 07, 2011, 11:59:09 PM: How did you figure this out? One day decided to try it?
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Carlriddle on November 08, 2011, 06:38:21 AM: What knida reduction in the box. Direct coupling to to motorcycle, but on output? Going to diff? Throw up some pics of your install.

Nice work BTW.
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: fabr on November 08, 2011, 11:13:03 AM: Quote from: Wyattboche on November 07, 2011, 11:59:09 PM
How did you figure this out? One day decided to try it?
Those UK boys have lots of rainy days to sit around and dream up this cool stuff!
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Baloo on November 08, 2011, 01:58:13 PM: Quote from: Carlriddle on November 08, 2011, 06:38:21 AM
What knida reduction in the box. Direct coupling to to motorcycle, but on output? Going to diff? Throw up some pics of your install.

Nice work BTW.

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:o 4wd

and its bloody raining again ;D
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: fabr on November 08, 2011, 06:36:36 PM: I like,I like,I like!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Wyattboche on November 09, 2011, 12:37:25 AM: Quote from: masterfabr on November 08, 2011, 11:13:03 AM
Those UK boys have lots of rainy days to sit around and dream up this cool stuff!
Probably the cash to go with too.
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Carlriddle on November 09, 2011, 05:57:20 AM: Without counting the teeth in the gear box, looks like its around 2:1 in the box. Coupled to most any irs diff, in 3-3.5:1 and the ratio should be on the money. Leave front unhooked for 2wd? let it spin alt?
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Baloo on November 09, 2011, 11:47:10 AM: there are 3 different sj transfer boxes each with slightly different ratios, low range is around 2 to 1 but that becomes your reverse so you go backwards at half speed, but you can tow twice as much ;D
hi range is around 1,4 to 1, depends if its from a 410 a 413 or a sammy,
Mark is using sidekick diff housings with rover torsen LSD diffs in, ratio is 5.125
you can select rear drive only or 4 wheel drive as you wish

explosive acceleration 8)

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Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: fabr on November 09, 2011, 01:06:27 PM: whAT KIND OF TORQUE/hp DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT TRANSFER CASE CAN HANDLE? I am quite interested in this setup if you think it would handle a well boosted busa.

BTW,nice eye safety wear there pal. LOL!!!!!
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Baloo on November 09, 2011, 01:53:52 PM: l think the general opinion is that they will take a V8 with out any problems at all, when you eventually overpower them they split the case but there are plenty of cradles available to prevent this happening, some where like the suzuki section on pirate would be the place to ask for numbers ?
pm Mark ( blue dragon ) if you want to know anything, he is a helpful chap

Andy
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Carlriddle on November 09, 2011, 02:24:28 PM: Hummm, quick ebay search, 3 under $125. Might have to junkyard Sat??
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: fabr on November 09, 2011, 04:47:56 PM: Now if we can just figure out how to get a low range and the engine to sit lower I'm all in favor of this. Maybe the engine sitting higher that I'd like be offset by mounting other things below it. Gotta think. OUCH!!!!
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: vidio1 on November 09, 2011, 08:12:24 PM: Maybe you could index it to the side so the engine centerline was the same or closer to being the same as the driveline. That would lower it a bit......
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: fabr on November 09, 2011, 08:35:36 PM: Facing the transfer case input flange. What is the rotation direction? Also,what is the approx center to center of the input/outputs?
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: fabr on November 09, 2011, 09:22:03 PM: WHat are you doing to the diffs to make independent suspension? Custom cases with drive flanges?
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Baloo on November 09, 2011, 11:19:35 PM: here is Marks build thread, from page 10 onwards, 1 to 10 is his rockcrawler, it should answer all your questions
http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=14499&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270 (http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=14499&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270)
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: dsrace on November 11, 2011, 07:02:39 AM: if this t case was to be used in a 2wd app how wide is the t case output flange to output flange where the axles would connect?
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: Blue Dragon on November 12, 2011, 11:04:58 AM: Its 32 cm from flange to flange. They are a great little transfer case I think they would take 200hp all day. ;D
Title: Re: How to make a low cost FRN 4x2,4x4 transfer case
Post by: fabr on November 14, 2011, 06:56:07 AM: I realize it would be a pain but, if possible ,it would be very nice to see a topic on how you did the hybrid differentials .................. Very cool stuff!