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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Controls and Electrical => Topic started by: rashid7 on January 17, 2012, 11:30:05 AM
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Hi everyone....
I'm planning to order a 14" rack for my piranha buggy, you can check it from the link below
http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1256/AC425150/ (http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1256/AC425150/)
And tie rods
http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1247/AC425120/ (http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1247/AC425120/)
Any recommendations or other options better than this one ?
Thanks all
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I want to ask if you have determined that rack will work with your front suspension design without creating bumpsteer?
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I think Carl broke one like that also.
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Carl breaks lots of stuff. rofl Hopfully something new to break this spring. ;D
But Fabrs right, I was running an 11" and snaped the mount where the bolts hold it. 14" would be worse. If the 14" rack is the correct width I'd put another $50 with it and get the "heavy duty" one listed just above or below that one on Moores site.
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Doug Heim makes very good rack for the piranha, pm him..
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this would prob hold just fine http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1258/AC425152/
but as already stated if its not the correct width for your buggy its just a paper weight. pick andmeasurment of front of buggy and we could give you the right answer.
and the tie rods are probably useless for your rail. pickup "5/8 swedged alum rods" from speedway motors. many different lengths threaded ends, 10-15 bucks.
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I want to ask if you have determined that rack will work with your front suspension design without creating bumpsteer?
i'll be honest i dont know how to check that
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how do i check the rigth width of the rack for me design to avoid bump steer?
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this would prob hold just fine http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1258/AC425152/
but as already stated if its not the correct width for your buggy its just a paper weight. pick andmeasurment of front of buggy and we could give you the right answer.
and the tie rods are probably useless for your rail. pickup "5/8 swedged alum rods" from speedway motors. many different lengths threaded ends, 10-15 bucks.
you mean these tie rods
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Swedged-6061-Aluminum-Radius-Rod-for-5-8-Inch-Heim,53184.html (http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Swedged-6061-Aluminum-Radius-Rod-for-5-8-Inch-Heim,53184.html)
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i'll be honest i dont know how to check that
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how do i check the rigth width of the rack for me design to avoid bump steer?
If you are using the normal single a-arm design the length of the rack, point-point. Should be the same width as the pivot points of the a-arms.
Hope this helps
Robin
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Yes those are the tierods.
Here is a basic drawing looking front front of car. The rack should be the width of frame frome left side A-arm pivot to the right side A-arm pivot.
Hopfully this makes sense. Are you building to plans?
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Rashid,NOW is the time to do this part correctly. Follow Carl's advice. Also d a search here for bumpsteer. Lots has been written on the subject. One of the very most important things to the success ,and your happiness with the results of your build, is attention to this detail of assembly.
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Yes those are the tierods.
Here is a basic drawing looking front front of car. The rack should be the width of frame frome left side A-arm pivot to the right side A-arm pivot.
Hopfully this makes sense. Are you building to plans?
Yes Carl, but I have changed the design to double a arms instead of a single a arms
The distance between the left and right a arms pivots is 180mm which is about 7"
Do you thinks the 11" rack will work ?
Or should I increase the distance between the two a arms pivots?
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Rashid,NOW is the time to do this part correctly. Follow Carl's advice. Also d a search here for bumpsteer. Lots has been written on the subject. One of the very most important things to the success ,and your happiness with the results of your build, is attention to this detail of assembly.
You are absolutely right fabr
And i'm so happy that you guys are helping me :)
thanks a lot
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Yes Carl, but I have changed the design to double a arms instead of a single a arms
The distance between the left and right a arms pivots is 180mm which is about 7"
Do you thinks the 11" rack will work ?
Or should I increase the distance between the two a arms pivots?
yes that would be the way l would go, the 2 need to match and finding a 7" rack might be tough
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use a centerload rack and a rack adapter then.
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use a centerload rack and a rack adapter then.
whats a rack adapter then Master ?
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Read this . http://www.dtsfab.com/index/index.php?topic=1178.0 Sorry to just post a link but I'm really busy right now. The thread should answer most of your questions.
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Plus one on what Fabr said. Center load and rack spreader. 11" rack on a 7" center would need to push the steering arm pivots out by wheel out 2" ea side and that an't gonna happen.
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use a centerload rack and a rack adapter then.
So master you suggest a centerload rack and I should design a rack adapter(length of it should equal the distance between the two a arms pivots)
What about the location of the rack, is it fine if I mounted it infront of the a arms? And there is any difference?