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Title: 930 CV
Post by: 455bird on March 06, 2009, 06:40:24 AM
Do any of you know where to go to get the pitchers on how to rebuild a 930 CV? I had them but lost them
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fastcorvairs on March 06, 2009, 06:47:42 AM
Do any of you know where to go to get the pitchers on how to rebuild a 930 CV? I had them but lost them

bird

Go to Outback Outfront now.  There Webb site has a real good wright up on how to rebuild 930 cv's.  Even got pictures.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Yummi on March 06, 2009, 07:15:53 AM
bird

Go to Outback Outfront now.  There Webb site has a real good wright up on how to rebuild 930 cv's.  Even got pictures.

+1

http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/cv_assembly.htm (http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/cv_assembly.htm)
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fastcorvairs on March 06, 2009, 09:27:45 AM
+1

http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/cv_assembly.htm (http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/cv_assembly.htm)

Yummi
Thank's!!!!!!! They have added the clocking since I last visited there site. And it is always good to keep everything left and right endside and outside.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Dunebound69 on March 06, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Good link. I use the grease needle but they never last, the needle always pops out.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Boostinjdm on March 06, 2009, 01:10:41 PM
Good link. I use the grease needle but they never last, the needle always pops out.
??? where it attaches to the gun?  I have a separate grease gun with a needle on it and never had any trouble.  Has to be kept out of the cold though.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Dunebound69 on March 11, 2009, 03:30:17 PM
The dam needle pops out of the part that connects it to the gun. Post a pic of your set up. I have been buying mine at TSC. They work for a while. But I buy them in sets of 3 or 4.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fabr on March 11, 2009, 06:30:28 PM
Why would they blow out? There's no pressure.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 06:53:12 PM
yeah there is some pressure as the grease doesnt like coming out that 'small' hole... ive never been a fan of needling cvs but I guess I am rather old...... :(
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fabr on March 11, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
What are you using for grease? Asphalt? You keep the stuff in the freezer?  ;D ;D Just asking because I've used grease needles for years and never had one blow out.I have had them come out if I stuck it in someplace and got it in a bind and then got rough getting it unstuck.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 07:13:02 PM
and asphalt is a problem?
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 07:13:31 PM
hmmpf...well I like it.......
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fabr on March 11, 2009, 07:20:01 PM
No seriously,I'd like to know since I think you've had a good bit of experience using cv's.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 07:34:54 PM
Std moly grease as supplied for cv use by Castrol (I think). Was the black grey crap but later was bright red.. sticky as crap...

Used to hand pack em... (jeeeezus I hated that job...mmmm... needling might yet be an idea!)
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 07:37:26 PM
If I remeber correctly it had to be th emoly specifically FOR cv use. other wise th eballs would skid rather than roll and wear flat spots...

Only busted one cv and that was from too much angle when we first bought the car. It had 3 x 6 rear trailers and they where almost at max angle at static height, didnt last long and we learnt our first lesson with teh use of cvs. reverted to 3x3 arms and moved the eng trans a little, never had one fail again.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fabr on March 11, 2009, 07:43:57 PM
REason I asked is because there are a lot of witches brew favorite concoctions used.I bought a 5 gal bucket of the moly cv grease a couple years ago. Lots of people use Cat Gold and I think Swepco also are a couple of favorites.Many swear by them.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 07:49:11 PM
yeah like you I got  a heap of grease at one time, still got some left I think.

As a group we fielded 5 buggies and several other classes out of our home town and we often did our testing and maintenance together (huge parties).

Cvs were done after every event and again before every event if testing was carried out. So thats an awful lot of cvs to clean and check and reassemble lubing (by hand) as you go.

More n once I was standing at the bench with 12 cvs stacked up beside me to assemble and lube (oh your hands are dirty anyway, no point in us all getting messy.... bastards). Got fed a lot of free beer like that...
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 07:51:03 PM
I mean seriously, if the grease you use doesnt show wear on the components after a reasonable period of hard use, why would you want a witches brew?

The engineers who make this stuff know a little bit about what they are doing... at least so I think...
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Boostinjdm on March 11, 2009, 08:04:50 PM
This is the needle I use.  It's a lincoln.  I don't use it on CV's, but I have used it on bearings and flush zerks without a problem.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fabr on March 11, 2009, 08:10:46 PM
That's what I have always thought.Really I think that there's just so many sissies out there that either don't maintain them or are just afraid to get dirty that cv's have gotten a bad rap in recent years. Actually I don't see why everyone thinks it's so messy to do.Hell a pair of nitrile gloves and a bucket of solvent cleans them and all it takes is a minute to hand pack. I don't see the big issue. Yes I am a believer in moly grease.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fabr on March 11, 2009, 08:11:57 PM
This is the needle I use.  It's a lincoln.  I don't use it on CV's, but I have used it on bearings and flush zerks without a problem.
same for me
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 11, 2009, 08:25:31 PM
and I know that cars today are getting the maximum wheel travel as opposed to my days in the game and 'perhaps' we didnt fully utilise our cvs like they do today but as I have said apart from that one issue we never suffered a failure. (thats 5 cars over 5 annual events each being 450ks minimum, lost of cvs turing lots of times)

Hell we stopped the cars from bottoming out (10 inches of travel front and back from memory) by using harder suspension. Now a beam car with hard suspension aint a lot of fun over 8 hours... but being the heroes we were, we managed. (the older I get the better I was...)
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fabr on March 11, 2009, 08:29:29 PM
Hehehe
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Dunebound69 on March 17, 2009, 07:04:03 AM
Just good old wheel bearing grease. I had one that only made 3 pumps. Boostins looks a lot nicer than the cheapo I found at the parts store. Looks like more shopping for me.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: artie on edge on March 17, 2009, 07:12:19 AM
wheel bearing grease will do fine until you start to load the joint. High horspower or/and extreme travel will do this. Im afraid that I have to advocate the use of a specific purpose made cv grease and most of these are a moly derivitive (or at least used to be).

Be careful though as som emoly will allow the balls to skid (slide rather than roll, believe it or not TOO slippery) and this WILL wear flat spots and then failure. Hence the cv specific rease.

BUT, if your happy with wheel bearing grease, go get em. After all, they are YOUR cvs..
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Dunebound69 on March 17, 2009, 07:17:02 AM
Thanks for the info. That was what the local store had. You go to the counter and get a deer in the headlight look around here if they can't just look it up in their computer.  :)
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Yummi on March 17, 2009, 08:08:37 AM
I use Swpco - not because I have a personal preferecne, but becuase Bill at AZ Transaxle does   -   Sometimes I just go with what folks tell me to use - and it works.

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Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Punkur67 on March 17, 2009, 09:40:28 AM
I use cat desert gold. I have a friend who works for cat and I get it for $6 a tube. Never had an issue with it.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Bug on March 17, 2009, 10:23:09 AM
Didn't know of who in here has seen these but it takes the work ( fun ) out of lubing your CV's .  A new gadget. For the price I would spend 5 bucks on a box of gloves but other are livin larger.

http://www.pacificcustoms.com/AC000201.html (http://www.pacificcustoms.com/AC000201.html)
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: Bug on March 17, 2009, 10:23:44 AM
Type 2 is on the site also.
Title: Re: 930 CV
Post by: fastcorvairs on March 17, 2009, 10:36:03 AM
Didn't know of who in here has seen these but it takes the work ( fun ) out of lubing your CV's .  A new gadget. For the price I would spend 5 bucks on a box of gloves but other are livin larger.

http://www.pacificcustoms.com/AC000201.html (http://www.pacificcustoms.com/AC000201.html)

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