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Automotive Powered Off Road (AKA: Buggys, Jeeps, Trucks, Etc,Etc. ) => Chassis and Suspension => Topic started by: Odyknuck on October 26, 2009, 10:54:08 AM
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I have a 2200 # Woods play car and I am in the shock debate. Obviously the 2.5s would be the way to go if money and fittment was no problem. My delima is first off the cost difference. The other is I don't have enough room for the 2.5s with out a lot of modification. So my question is will the 2.0s do the job well and last etc. Most of my riding is at lower speeds in the Woods. The terrain is however very rocky.
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The 2.0's will be just fine.
Or for the price of the Fox 2.0's you could have FOA 2.5's.......
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2.0 is fine.
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Speaking of FOA's,what the latest opinions of them?
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Just to add Bias weight to the equation.
Front - 700# Have Fox 2.0 coil overs on front now.
Rear - 1500# Going to 2.0s or 2.5s coil overs
BTW Doug I sent you a PM for pricing on the 2.0 and 2.5 coil overs.
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Based on my research they appear to offer a decent product. They have only been around for several years and I can only assume there quality control has gotten better. On the negative side, there demeaner sucks and they will not talk to you on the phone. I would prefer to talk to some one so I get a better feel for the product. The best thing they have going is the price.
Speaking of FOA's,what the latest opinions of them?
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Demeanor/customer service-same thing to me.
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I run fox 2.0 coil overs on the back of my v6 powered rail work just fine. I actually went down in spring rate and got better ride and performance. I think I have 275 upper spring and a 225 lower spring. And still under 300 psi in the shock. And no bottoming out. You may get by with a fox 2.5 non coil over and save the spring weight.
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Sounds like you are using Coil over air shocks? Wow 275 over 225 on the rear! You must have a really light Buggy even with the heavy motor. Mine calalate to 350 over 500 for the 1500# rear
I run fox 2.0 coil overs on the back of my v6 powered rail work just fine. I actually went down in spring rate and got better ride and performance. I think I have 275 upper spring and a 225 lower spring. And still under 300 psi in the shock. And no bottoming out. You may get by with a fox 2.5 non coil over and save the spring weight.
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The air adds around 300#
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So I take it his are coil over air shocks.
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Rear engine 3.1 v6, 091 bus, 11 gallons gas and one fat ass driver(350+). Frame is 1 1/2" 11 gauge wall. It is no light weight. The shocks are Fox 2.0 airs with the coil assist. I see a lot of off cars set up way to stiff. I have never weighed the car. But it is 12' 6'' long and about 90" wide. The angle of your shock makes big difference on load capacity as well as how close to the wheel you are. A freind with 3X3 put on kings and went with their suggestions and has since gone to less springs. Enemy is running fox 2.5 airs without coil assist and is real happy with them. My driving style is when in doubt gas it! Shock have been on the car for 6 years and never been open.
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Best pic of my rear shock I have in the computer.
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Im off work thiswee and all my FOX info is there. I need to go get it. Sorry for the delay on pricing.
Lets see what else has been holding me up...
Sewer backed up,
Wife had me tear down a wall in the house
Wife decided to remodel the basment
WTF dude!
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Life always gets in the way of living it
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Im off work thiswee and all my FOX info is there. I need to go get it. Sorry for the delay on pricing.
Lets see what else has been holding me up...
Sewer backed up,
Wife had me tear down a wall in the house
Wife decided to remodel the basment
WTF dude!
I think I've figured out your biggest problem Doug!
Next time your missus wants some remodeling done to the house, tell her you'll do it for her after she lets you have a three way with her and that cute 21 year old from down the street...
Either she won't ask again, or she will but you won't mind... ;D
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There is a cute 21 year old down the street??
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The fox prices are as follows...
2.0 C/O Emulsion shocks are as follows...
3.5" - 10" travel .625 shaft are $235 ea.
10" - 18" travel .875 shaft are $315 ea.
2.0 remote res. C/O shocks are
$285 ea.
$265 ea
2.5 C/O Emulsion shocks all sizes (8" - 16" travel) are...
$395 ea.
2.5 remote res. C/O shocks all sizes are...
$495 ea.
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Hey excuse my ignorance, but is there much of a difference between the 2.0 coil overs and the shocks that have the reservoirs like the ones you have?
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Not sure what your question is however both the emulsion and the coilover are avalable with the remote resivoir. The difference between the shock styles is the coil over uses a threaded body to mount the coil springs. The emulsion smooth body requires some sort of spring to hold the buggy up like aTorsio bar setup or similar.
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Oil and air mix in the emulsion and you cant run them upside down although I dont know why you would want to.
Res. shocks, the oil and air do not mix
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Yeah I shoulda explained myself better, what I should of said is there a benefit to having the shocks with the reservoirs? Or are they better then the ones without? ::) I'll get there.. Cause I got the ones without the reservoirs and I think they look better with.
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when the oil and air gets mixed violently the air bubbles trap in the oil due to the fast motiong and cant escape fast enough and the shock does not dampen as well as it can with the reserivoir. The air passes through the valve within the oil.
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yes dunebound 69 has coil assist 2.0 air shocks as do I in the rear of my rail. his motor is lighter than my v-6, he has aluminum heads. I run 350/450 and the secondary is to heavy but livable. if I had it to do over I think I would've liked the 2.5 air shock ( not coil assist ) better in the rear not to mention the weight loss as well as the price drop. the coils for a 16" stroke shock ( that I have ) were $75 a piece so another $300 in the two shocks. for slower speed woods riding you would be just fine with the 2.5 air shocks. I know 4 people with v-8 rock crawlers, that run the 2.5 air shocks on all 4 corners of their rock crawlers on 4 link suspension systems with out problems, given they are crawling but you get what I'm saying. my rail is on the left in the pic.
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Thanks fellas! Hmmm.....