enemy's trailer tires

[dsrace]

not sure where enemy posted he had a blow out on the trailer and that the trip before he had a bearing get hot as well. so i came across a pic that it prob what enemy's hug looked like before he stopped   

[fabr]

Oh boy!!!! That be a hottie!!

[dsrace]

so enemy blew one tire for sure. i know he had a bearing get hot enough it was sizzling water or something out of itself. he would have to elaborate but that pic made me think of that event    and also reminds me of carls lack of bearings in his hub once he got home and saw a wheel leaning    carl luck right there

[Enemy]

About to lava right off the axle, holy shit!!
Mine wasn't glowing like that! Just a radiant heat feeling as I was doing a walk-around. Wheel bearing too tight was my gremlin that trip..

And the fall trip i blew up 2 tires, one on the drive down, and one the way home out by Wilson lake Ks. The 2nd one sounded and felt like I hit a roadside bomb.

[fabr]

Last trailer tire I had blowout sounded like a shotgun blast in the back seat. Then the fire began........................poof!  $80K up in smoke.

[dsrace]

blowing tires really sucks!!  btdt myself , luckily i have never had a bearing go south on me.  i have never personally witnessed a trailer bearing glow like the one in the pic lol and fabr, an $80k loss from a blow out is absolutely a worst case scenerio! that is horrible and f'd up what transpired with ins!

[fabr]

Ya,my $00.00 insurance settlement sucked ass.Hope it never happens to any of you that run LT tires on a trailer.

[dsrace]

Ya,my $00.00 insurance settlement sucked ass.Hope it never happens to any of you that run LT tires on a trailer.

because of your story A. i would make sure there is no way they can tell there Lt or B. just buy speed rated st's.   i have st load range F tires with a speed rating Lo / 81 mph.

[Enemy]

What brand tire you run DS? We had this conversation briefly a while back..
I think..
IIRC not available in my size..
Dunno..
Stupid brain.

[fabr]

Best tire out there if you have 16" wheels is the LingLong or Prometer by LingLong 14 ply rated load range G ,75 mph rated steel belted ST tires. Best tire out there by far IMO and great price. I have 16 on the ground now. Have ran them for over 10 years without a single issue. My oldest ones still look like new. I highly recommend and will not even consider any others until someday something changes.

[fabr]

Ya,my $00.00 insurance settlement sucked ass.Hope it never happens to any of you that run LT tires on a trailer.

because of your story A. i would make sure there is no way they can tell there Lt or B. just buy speed rated st's.   i have st load range F tires with a speed rating Lo / 81 mph.

I found this info on speed rated L tires.  L rated are 75mph like the prometer LingLongs..      M rated are    81 mph    130 km/h    Temporary Spare Tiresnormally






Beginning in 1991, the speed symbol denoting a fixed maximum speed capability of new tires must be shown only in the speed rating portion of the tire's service description, such as 225/50R16 89S. The most common tire speed rating symbols, maximum speeds and typical applications are shown below:
L    75 mph    120 km/h    Off-Road & Light Truck Tires
M    81 mph    130 km/h    Temporary Spare Tires
N    87 mph    140km/h    
P    93 mph    150 km/h    
Q    99 mph    160 km/h    Studless & Studdable Winter Tires
R    106 mph    170 km/h    H.D. Light Truck Tires
S    112 mph    180 km/h    Family Sedans & Vans
T    118 mph    190 km/h    Family Sedans & Vans
U    124 mph    200 km/h    
H    130 mph    210 km/h    Sport Sedans & Coupes
V    149 mph    240 km/h    Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars

[Enemy]

Good stuff!
I am running 15's so I am limited in options, I just need to step up to 16's and be done with it.
And if DS gets his way, some upgrades spindles (?) on the axles if I am going to replace all the bearings anyway..
He will have to elaborate on that..

And It may be getting tugged down to Arizona mid Jan, so I better get on it!

[dsrace]

https://www.prioritytire.com/transeagle-all-steel-st-st-225-75r15-121-117m-f-12-ply-trailer-tire/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&scid=scplpN948537-99&sc_intid=N948537-99&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvfDgYLL7QIVdIpaBR0q7APlEAQYASABEgJ0LvD_BwE


so i re read what i had posted above from my phone...... damn i need to proof read those phone posts   

i do not have the miles and years on this brand of tires as you do fabr so i cannot give them an A+ rating but i do like them so far with only a few thousand miles on the first set ever.

enemy, i did take a pic of the tires and sent that info to grimm for when he changes his. i meant to send it to you and thought i did but apparently i did not. there are small snow drifts out back right now so i did not walk out there. i believe the link above is my tire but sent grimm a text asking if he had that info yet as i deleted it. dumb phones have a limited memory capacity lol

on the axle spindle upgrades, i was referring to the hubs. when you swap out your brakes would be the time to buy 6k lb hubs with brakes as it is my understanding 6k lb axles are the same stub as 5400 lb that you currently have. it was like prying teeth but the rep finally admitted this to me but of course followed up with BUT BUT BUT you don't want to do that as the info sticker won't be correct anymore to order new parts. why i asked that question is a whole other story but got the info from a custom trailer builder with 40 years experience.  in the end you'll pick up 1200 lbs capacity rating which is just peace of mind as you have had not issues with bending axle as of yet. it's the same money to buy complete brakes sets in 5400 or 6k lb. 5400 lbs axles are a bastard set by the way! i think dexter offered them back when i ordered your trailer through neils trailer outlet. i questioned this option back when as i had never seen or heard of 5400 lb only 5k or 5200 lbs axles.

something else to look into when you shop brakes....... i cannot say for certain but i believe your brakes are offered in 2 different shoe widths which would also be a wider drum. or at least they asked me last time i inquired.

[dsrace]

so mine are ameritrail st-awc load range f.   radial 225 75 15 and sidewall says 2840 lbs each at 95 psi.

[fabr]

Load Index

P195/60R15 87S - The load index (87) is the tire size's assigned numerical value used to compare relative load carrying capabilities. In the case of our example, the 87 identifies the tire's ability to carry approximately 1,201 pounds.

The higher the tire's load index number, the greater its load carrying capacity.

89 = 1,279 pounds
88 = 1,235 pounds
87 = 1,201 pounds
86 = 1,168 pounds
85 = 1,135 pounds

A tire with a higher load index than that of the Original Equipment tire indicates an increase in load capacity. A tire with a load index equal to that of the Original Equipment tire indicates an equivalent load capacity. A tire with a lower load index than the Original Equipment tire indicates the tire does not equal the load capacity of the original.

Typically, the load indexes of the tires used on passenger cars and light trucks range from 70 to 126.
Load Index    Pounds    Kilograms    
   Load Index    Pounds    Kilograms    
   Load Index    Pounds    Kilograms
70    739    335    89    1,279    580    108    2,205    1,000
71    761    345    90    1,323    600    109    2,271    1,030
72    783    355    91    1,356    615    110    2,337    1,060
73    805    365    92    1,389    630    111    2,403    1,090
74    827    375    93    1,433    650    112    2,469    1,120
75    853    387    94    1,477    670    113    2,535    1,150
76    882    400    95    1,521    690    114    2,601    1,180
77    908    412    96    1,565    710    115    2,679    1,215
78    937    425    97    1,609    730    116    2,756    1,250
79    963    437    98    1,653    750    117    2,833    1,285
80    992    450    99    1,709    775    118    2,910    1,320
81    1,019    462    100    1,764    800    119    2,998    1,360
82    1,047    475    101    1,819    825    120    3,086    1,400
83    1,074    487    102    1,874    850    121    3,197    1,450
84    1,102    500    103    1,929    875    122    3,307    1,500
85    1,135    515    104    1,984    900    123    3,417    1,550
86    1,168    530    105    2,039    925    124    3,527    1,600
87    1,201    545    106    2,094    950    125    3,638    1,650
88    1,235    560    107    2,149    975    126    3,748    1,700

When looking at light truck (LT) or newer Special Trailer Service (ST) tires, there are two load indexes branded on the sidewall, separated by a forward slash. Using an LT235/75R15 104/101S Load Range C tire as an example, the load index is 104/101. 104 corresponds to 1,984 pounds, and 101 corresponds to 1,819 pounds. So what is the true load carrying capacity of the tire? The answer changes depending on the situation in which the tire is being used.

Since LT tires are commonly used on trucks with dual rear wheels, they are branded with two load indexes. The first number indicates the load carrying capacity if the tire is installed on a truck with a single-wheel rear axle, and the second number applies when the tire is used in a dual rear application.

Though it may seem counterintuitive that a tire is rated to carry less weight when working in tandem with another tire in the dual pair, the purpose is to build in additional reserve capacity should one of the two tires fail, leaving the sole remaining tire to carry the load normally handled by two tires.