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one of the video's I posted up towards the end of it you will see doug and I looking for trans and the rest of the bunch. when we find them if you look real hard you can see all of us at his rail trying to get the 2 halves back together! it was the ls october freeze you a$$ of trip so heat wasn't an issue with the shock failing either! also now that trans has re-valved after finding out that at the king plant they installed the compr valving on the rebound side as per the conversation with brett at the time, he was able to drop down to 300 something psi!
ya know if that shock would have came apart completely just before the bottom of that dune you would have looked like a human lawn dart! that would've hurt but made for a good pic.
And you didnt even drop your cigarette
With the hold down nut not on the shaft, that caused the valving stacks and piston to just flop around in side. Those parts weren't doing what they were to do. So with 415 PSI push in shaft out and the oil not doing any dampening, it pounded against the limiting strap. Does that make sense to you guys now.
I am not saying that the strap couldn't have been defective because anything is possible but judging from what I saw and the fact that the shock ejected far enough that with a flashlight you could've seen the threaded stud that the piston bolt down with, well it came out too far and yes that is the point of the strap to keep that from happening but when the shaft came out and the shock leaned over like a lazy v with a wet strap stretching is when it finished it all off. I know the point is that the strap shouldn't have let this happen in the first place. I have used prp, beard, mckenzies and quad straps from pacific customs. the mckenzies are the stiffest and strongest with my experience with them all listed. now one time I soaked a strap in a bucket of water for 10 min's to see if I could pre-stretch it and at 450 psi with the wheels off the ground it stretched 1.75" as soon as the pressure hit it! that strap was 2" shorter than the shock and also mounted eye to eye on the shock. I left it up for 2 days untouched and then let the pressure off. by the end of the day it shrank back all but 1/2". now during our trip to ls we had rain on and off for 2 days and in between mist so we did ride in the mist and the rails in front sprayed water at the guys behind as well. the day this happened it was still wet as you can see in the video. I on the other hand actually drove through a flooded out portion of the trail on my way to see fabber! by the time I saw it, it was too late to do anything but pin it and hope for the best! no mine did not stretch to the point of letting the shock come apart but my shocks are fox and aren't prone to coming apart like the king rep so gently explained!
It's starting to make sense more now. I know that this is a subject of debate for a very long time but I am of the camp that says straps are BS in the first place. MAYBE I could be persuaded of their need on air shocks due to the high pressure to start with but on conventional coil overs I see absolutely no need for straps IF there is a cushion of some kind at the end of stroke. I cannot see why Kings would not have some provision to cushion the impact at end of stroke. That cushion can/should be a spring or,my preference, a polyurethane bumper in place of the internal solid aluminum spacer that Fox c/o's have. Airs may be different.
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