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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Controls and Electrical => Topic started by: Enemy on July 11, 2014, 10:26:43 PM

Title: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: Enemy on July 11, 2014, 10:26:43 PM: Can I use a line lock as a parking brake? I would only use it when the engine is running for warm up on my steep driveway....And the occasional smokey burnout....Only on private property though eyes

Didn't know if those solenoids start getting hot after long periods?
Thoughts?
Have a nice effin day :)
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: fabr on July 12, 2014, 06:07:20 AM: Use a manual line lock . Forget the wiring.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: fastcorvairs on July 12, 2014, 06:23:45 AM: Quote from: fabr on July 12, 2014, 06:07:20 AM
Use a manual line lock . Forget the wiring.

X2 on using a manual. The elc would be pulling a butt load of voltage. Would not be as reliable either.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: fabr on July 12, 2014, 07:45:18 AM: Some people will bad mouth the manual locks. IMO ,they are just not smart enough to use them correctly. ;) ;) Manual locks are nearly issue proof.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: Enemy on July 12, 2014, 11:06:27 AM: Manual lock something like this? Simple enough and easy on the wallet!

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Park-Lok-Hydraulic-Brake,1970.html (http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Park-Lok-Hydraulic-Brake,1970.html)
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: fabr on July 12, 2014, 12:37:48 PM: bingo. I'll be using similar with this torque converter Fortin -no park provision- so I'll need one no matter what.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: fabr on July 12, 2014, 12:40:39 PM: You do understand that to release you push the release and then reapply the brakes harder than set or they do not release? Just pushing the button will not do it. I think that is why some have issues with them. They just don't operate them correctly,IMO. I've never had problems with them on bigger trucks.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: Dunebound69 on July 12, 2014, 06:53:37 PM: One of those my have saved me from getting ridden by the redheaded whore!!!!
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: deano on July 12, 2014, 08:26:30 PM: it's hard to forget after being in that spot :u
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: deano on July 12, 2014, 08:29:44 PM: the fear does slowing leave gg:
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: Dunebound69 on July 12, 2014, 08:32:30 PM: I don't have fear of doing it again. But I am aware of things that could prevent it.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: dsrace on July 13, 2014, 09:51:03 AM: http://secure.chassisshop.com/partlist/6168/ (http://secure.chassisshop.com/partlist/6168/)

or just add one or two of these. i had one of those line locks and they did good on flat ground but push the pedal to hard and lock and i couldn't push it hard enough to release it. only happened twice out of quite a few use's and a cheap empi part back then but the only way i could get it to release was to break the line fitting. now a better quality part would've been better i am sure but these mechanical one's look pretty fool proof to me. they offer them in right and left too. i don't see why you couldn't make a disc to bolt on behind you input sprocket to the box for this use. just a thought
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: dsrace on July 13, 2014, 09:56:23 AM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILWOOD-MECHANICAL-SPOT-CALIPERS-PADS-PARKING-BRAKE-KARTING-ATV-SNOWMOBILE-50-/400362459291 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILWOOD-MECHANICAL-SPOT-CALIPERS-PADS-PARKING-BRAKE-KARTING-ATV-SNOWMOBILE-50-/400362459291)

http://www.amazon.com/Wilwood-120-2373-Right-Mechanical-Caliper/dp/B002G35PRM (http://www.amazon.com/Wilwood-120-2373-Right-Mechanical-Caliper/dp/B002G35PRM)
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: BDKW1 on July 13, 2014, 10:08:01 AM: Those little line locks they sell are very low quality. A regular ball valve works much better. Put in 2 for front rear separation. That way if you loose a line you can cut off that end and still have decent brakes if you are running a balance bar set-up.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: dsrace on July 13, 2014, 10:15:04 AM: can you post a link?
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: fabr on July 13, 2014, 10:49:02 AM: http://www.discovervalve.com/102458.html?gclid=CK7J2Lfewr8CFQYoaQodkr4A0A (http://www.discovervalve.com/102458.html?gclid=CK7J2Lfewr8CFQYoaQodkr4A0A) .Make SURE you use only high pressure ball vaalves if you do it with ball valves. Most are only around 600psi. The one posted is 3600 psi rated. I would not use any rated less than 2500 psi. Depending on your setup you will see around 1000 psi minimum in panic stop to upwards of 1500-1800 quite possible.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: dsrace on July 13, 2014, 01:40:08 PM: nice and simple too!
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: BDKW1 on July 13, 2014, 01:43:05 PM: http://www.mcmaster.com/#4715k11/=stmd0v (http://www.mcmaster.com/#4715k11/=stmd0v)

1/4"NPT is a little large, 1/8" is perfect.
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: fabr on July 13, 2014, 02:25:16 PM: Quote from: BDKW1 on July 13, 2014, 01:43:05 PM
http://www.mcmaster.com/#4715k11/=stmd0v (http://www.mcmaster.com/#4715k11/=stmd0v)

1/4"NPT is a little large, 1/8" is perfect.
Just using it as an example for DS to see what type valve you were talking about. Make sure it is a full port design, as you show , or the internal passage will be more like 1/16" .
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: Carlriddle on July 14, 2014, 05:23:26 AM: Hell theres no hills in Nebraska except for man made ones? Oh crap nevermind I've seen your driveway!! kick LMAO LMAO LMAO
Title: Re: Line locks/Parking Brakes
Post by: Enemy on July 14, 2014, 01:03:56 PM: Just the man-made mountain pass driveway I have to deal with for the time being! thumb down
Lots of great info here as usual! Thanks all!!