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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 03:34:10 PM »
Just peddle your butt down well hook you up with some seat time, foods and refreshments. Ofcourse we'd be trading it for shock knowledge.

What part of Ks you move to?  Easton is not even on Google!  Lol
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 03:59:44 PM »
Flutter stacks work well for getting rid of chatter without getting super sloppy as it would with opening up to many bleed holes. They are also very tunable with shim diameter and thickness. They work equally well on comp and rebound. I have found that doing one side without doing the same to the other creates problems, either packing or stacking.

Tuning airshocks is a pretty unrewarding task. Due to shaft displacement and oil foaming your valving changes are almost un-noticeable. Going to a resi out the bottom on them will require about half the shims as emulsion.


are you referring to remote reservoir? if so how would you do this out the bottom? i only ask because as i understood it from fox they tried a remote reservoir on air shocks but said they had to many issure keeping the line together due to the amount of psi developed at full bump. not saying that it hasn't been done but any info on it?
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 04:24:29 PM »
What part of Ks you move to?  Easton is not even on Google!  Lol

Just a little north west of Leavenworth. Prison city.......... I swear there are more cops here per capita than anywhere else in the country. City police, County sheriff, MP's from the fort, more prison guards than you can count. It is one well armed area. I feel the need to buy more guns just to keep up.

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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 05:48:39 PM »
sounds like a good enough reason! lol



here is a link to a fox valving chart
http://www.ridefox.com/dl/offroad/FOX_OR_25_VALVING.pdf


on the rebound side mark at mark sand trans call them 2-1 and 3-1 #'s but that doesn't show up on the chart. but what it is .......take the #90 on rebound and add an aditional 1.6" od .015 shim to the existing one or 3-1 add 2 of them.
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2014, 07:50:29 PM »
Well,eff ! My brain just shorted out.
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 07:01:09 AM »
Well,eff ! My brain just shorted out.

so you just figured it out too huh  rofl rofl rofl  i think i am going to try and flutter the stack on my front end along with the slower rebound rate and then we'll just see how that does at the dunes.
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2014, 08:09:48 AM »
I've been doing some tuning. Change one thing and 2 others need looked at.........................
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2014, 04:41:29 PM »
You guys crack me up!!!! This is why I have not started down the long road of shock tuning. I did it with clutch tuning and it took 2 years to get it right. But it was extremely gratifying when I was heading in the right direction and got it figured out.
To here it is worse than clutch tuning in regards to gratification, maybe I will just leave well enough alone.
But now I am reading and wanting to keep learning. Thanks guys!!!!!!  Sarcasm  ;D
 

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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2014, 05:03:16 PM »
Just get out the wrenches and learn teardown and assembly tricks. After that ,it's a breeze.
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2014, 06:36:05 PM »
I have torn them down and resealed them. First lesson, make sure ALL the pressure is relieved and pull shock to full extension before removing the Schrader (?) valve. Shock oil tastes like crap and is hard to get out of your hair, clothes, walls and ceiling.  My problem is around here I do not really need the suspension at its optimum. And when I get to L/S I just want to tear it up not tear it down. Maybe I will tweak a little if I buy some shims before the trip.

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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2014, 07:28:47 PM »
Does anyone have a cheap source of those high $$$$$$$$$ shims?
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2014, 08:24:38 PM »
i have always dialed mine in for the best all around ride for what i do. this is the longest i have ever worked on one lol but i will get it at some point i guess maybe if i have to  rofl a bath in that oil would really suck lol

i have always bought my shims or shim stacks from mark at marks sand trans but after having tore so many down and rebuilt them, i have a small collection. this last order i placed the shims were $1.50 per shim.
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2014, 08:26:14 PM »
I've been doing some tuning. Change one thing and 2 others need looked at.........................

i have always found after changing the front then i have to do the back.....always something but all in the name of fun so oh well   ;D ;)
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Re: mixing emulsion and coil over shocks
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2014, 08:34:53 PM »
i have always dialed mine in for the best all around ride for what i do. this is the longest i have ever worked on one lol but i will get it at some point i guess maybe if i have to  rofl a bath in that oil would really suck lol

i have always bought my shims or shim stacks from mark at marks sand trans but after having tore so many down and rebuilt them, i have a small collection. this last order i placed the shims were $1.50 per shim.
Ya,I have a couple hundred $ of them for the 2.0's but now I need to complete the selection of shims for 2.5 and a few more extras. Looking for cheapest way.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
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