Monkey Ears and ISIS

[fabr]

Dream on ,yummi.

[Yummi]

I know. 

How screwed are we collectively that in a country of 300+ million there is no plausible, qualified candidate?  Kasich is below 2%.  Jeb at what 6%?  He would suck.  Same ol same ol. 

Rumour is they want to draft Romeny? 

Serious, nobody out there? 

[fabr]

Kasich gets a 85% from me but that 15% of him scares the shit out of me. He doesn't have a chance in hell of being an electable candidate. Jeb is a zero in my book. Rubio,untested,no real track record. Cruz,well,not anymore. Others,not a chance of getting elected. Trump though,I'm still very much on the fence. IF he did as a business exec does and delegates responsibioity well and manages their results then ,yes ,he'd be a viable candidate to me.

[dsrace]

Kasich gets a 85% from me but that 15% of him scares the shit out of me. He doesn't have a chance in hell of being an electable candidate. Jeb is a zero in my book. Rubio,untested,no real track record. Cruz,well,not anymore. Others,not a chance of getting elected. Trump though,I'm still very much on the fence. IF he did as a business exec does and delegates responsibioity well and manages their results then ,yes ,he'd be a viable candidate to me.

in all aspects, yes i agree!!!!!  i still wonder if bush's wife was part of the nafta treaty lol

[Carlriddle]

Show of hands who's voting for Hilary?   

[fabr]

  -there's one hand.

[dsrace]

Show of hands who's voting for Hilary?   

  hilary  only if she pulls palan in as her vise president   

[DeepBusch69]

I know you all have probably seen this video, but it cracked me up.  Not real, but still funny.  I do believe this is how the rest of the world sees us now. 



Flame on

[Carlriddle]

While it may not be real, I bet I could sell it to most of the voters in this country. 

[sandracer1]

Trump surely has shown he can manage and is economically savvy. He obviously can lead and allows those that can lead to do so. He takes no shit for sure.
If he implodes I am in for Rubio. I kind of like what Rubio has to say and seems to be very sensible. No track record? we elected Obuma, what was his track record? We know what it is now and the legacy he will leave behind for sure, no doubt about that!

Yummi,
 I have a hard time trusting your opinion since you were so spot on about your Ferguson assessment and Mike Browns, "hands up don't shoot" BS. Look where that has us as a nation. 1960's?
Sorry buddy you might be past it but I still live it everyday!

[fabr]

Trump surely has shown he can manage and is economically savvy. He obviously can lead and allows those that can lead to do so. He takes no shit for sure.
If he implodes I am in for Rubio. I kind of like what Rubio has to say and seems to be very sensible. No track record? we elected Obuma, what was his track record? We know what it is now and the legacy he will leave behind for sure, no doubt about that!

Yummi,
 I have a hard time trusting your opinion since you were so spot on about your Ferguson assessment and Mike Browns, "hands up don't shoot" BS. Look where that has us as a nation. 1960's?
Sorry buddy you might be past it but I still live it everyday!

WE? WE,elected him?? YOU might have but I'm not a part of the WE you mention.................

[Carlriddle]

You know you voted of O Fabr.  Wasnt that a Obumer sticker on your elec car. 

St Louis had the cheapest diesel on way to St A by $.25/gal.  Emergency exit and I took 100 gal.  Maybe its O's subsidised fuel.  Just left the truck running to drown out the thumpin going on. 

[fabr]

 Hey,Carl,    I hear you are working on Hillary's team. 

[Yummi]

Yummi,
 I have a hard time trusting your opinion since you were so spot on about your Ferguson assessment and Mike Browns, "hands up don't shoot" BS. Look where that has us as a nation. 1960's?
Sorry buddy you might be past it but I still live it everyday!

I don't think I was.  My point was ignore the spark, look at the fire.  Still holds true. 

My initial impression was that Ferguson and Bundy Ranch had more similarities than differences.  Both sparked by outright distortion of the facts by or on behalf of the "victims."   The blacks rioted, the whites drove hundreds of miles and pointed loaded weapons at officers in a "show down."  The only thing that kept the whites from "rioting" at Bundy Ranch, is there is nothing to destroy out there.  The only thing that kept them alive was the police stood down. 

The Ferguson report of 2015 resulted in termination of multiple officers and the resignation of the Chief.  Clearly, while Brown's death was justified, the underlying issue, and the "fire" had some merit.  There are multiple departments under consent decree.  That is problematic.  Some of the findings of that report are remarkable.  Police are the first line of government.  When we have issues with police, we clearly have issues with government.  You can be angry all you want at the "protesters / rioters" but what they exposed should concern you a great deal. 

On the current "Black Lives Matter" protests at various colleges, the spark is not all about Brown.  Brown alone cannot sustain that fire.   Some of it is just pure crap.  Some of it is very scary such as the speech issues.  Look at the fire.  Large groups of people are so disenfranchised that they are "protesting."  We can dismiss it all day long as "pure crap" but we would be better served to see it for what it is.  A crack.  A few years from now folks will be saying "How did we miss the signs?"  The schisms in this country are growing - daily. 

[Carlriddle]

Hey,Carl,    I hear you are working on Hillary's team. 

I'm not sure she needs my help.  And the republicans better get their shit together and bring a good candidate to the front that the whole party can stand behind, or its gonna be Hillary and Bill sleeping in the White House again.