Slow Build by Engineer

[fastcorvairs]

Yes but the inside tire has a shorter radius then the outside tire.  So the inside has to turn tighter then the outside. Walk in a small circle your inside foot will have more angle then your outside foot. 

[LiveWire]

And making the inside tire turn more without the outside will decrease the turning radius

Only if you did not already have Ackermann. If you did, it would make things worse and turning radius would increase.

LiveWire,  Have a look see at this pic. 

     Can you see how much more the inside wheel is turning compared to the outside.  If Carl can take a bit of turn, out of the inside wheel, and transfer that to the outside wheel, I think you'll see that the turn radius will get smaller. 

     He doesn't have to take very much at all.  I understand that the inside wheel needs to turn further than the out side because the radius of the inside wheels path is shorter than that of the outside.  That part is easy, however.  If the outside wheel doesn't turn in enough to match the turning radius of the inside wheel plus the difference between the tires you will have increased your turning radius as the weight is transferred to the outside tire in a turn.  Do you follow?

I cannot see the picture because it is hosted on Photo Bucket which is blocked from my current location. Based on the words in the original post, I took it as that he either had full Ackermann now or not quite enough toe out on turn to be Ackermann. In that case, reducing toe out on turn would increase turning radius even if that allows the outside tire to turn more.

[LiveWire]

It would be difficult to make it strong and adjustable.  Plus it would screw with bumpsteer unless you also made the rack spacer adjustable.

If you wanted to play with it, it does not have to be permanently adjustable. Once it will roll, you can lock the wheels and push it in a circle on pavement. Just use the tie rods to adjust the toe out and see what happens. If you find a better setup, you can then look at changing it so you get that amount of toe out with the wheels turned and straight and whatever amount of static toe you want.

Spacing the rack back will increase toe out on turn. Of course you have to adjust the tie rod length for static toe.

[Engineer]

That is a great idea of a way to play with the ackerman (adjusting the tie rods).  It has full Ackerman.

My only question on turning is when the rear tires are locked together and it's in the sand. 



Well, been doing lots of welding.  The parts that are on it are done. 



Everything worked out pretty well.  The weak link was the operator. 











My rollover jig isn't as fancy as Fabrs.





The adjustable heigth jig is pretty handy though.




Before you start painting lines all over it there are a couple tubes missing.  Waiting on Material.

[dsrace]

just a thought while your welding, maybe a brace tube for the lateral links would be a good idea. there is more load there than you think.

[Enemy]

Looking totally BADD ASS Eng! Love yer design for enclosing over that tube, very stout.

[Engineer]

Looking totally BADD ASS Eng! Love yer design for enclosing over that tube, very stout.

Thanks!  Can't wait to test it for tough.

just a thought while your welding, maybe a brace tube for the lateral links would be a good idea. there is more load there than you think.

Ok start painting on it!

Actually, The bearing carrier is getting some final machining then I will get some detailed pictures out back.  I actually think that 6 tubes tying into the 1/4" 5-link/bearing carrier housing is enough but tell me your concerns!

I hope to get the motor set in place this week to start thinking about how to tie its mounts in as well.

[Reidy02]

Looks good Eng! I gotta ask though how much do ya think it'll weigh? Is that steel that you cut up to make the front shock mounts would that be 6mm? Or is it closer to 4mm?

[Yummi]

Crazy, not even in the dirt yet and it is on its lid?  Don't let it sit too long like that. It might just want to assume that position from habit if you do. 

[Engineer]

Looks good Eng! I gotta ask though how much do ya think it'll weigh? Is that steel that you cut up to make the front shock mounts would that be 6mm? Or is it closer to 4mm?

It will probably weigh around 1500 lbs.  I can still roll it over by hand.  How heavy can it be? 

The bulkhead pieces are 11 gauge so close to 3mm.  Where the shock mount is there are two welded together so it is a little over 6mm total.  plus it is boxed top and bottom.

Crazy, not even in the dirt yet and it is on its lid?  Don't let it sit too long like that. It might just want to assume that position from habit if you do. 

I am training it to do backflips.

[dsrace]

Thanks!  Can't wait to test it for tough.

Ok start painting on it!

Actually, The bearing carrier is getting some final machining then I will get some detailed pictures out back.  I actually think that 6 tubes tying into the 1/4" 5-link/bearing carrier housing is enough but tell me your concerns!

I hope to get the motor set in place this week to start thinking about how to tie its mounts in as well.

I am not referring to the wheel bearing carrier but rather the lateral link mount on the chassis. since your there just add a link tube to back up the pocket.

[Engineer]

A small rant.


To the person who "drew" up the Busa and posted the drawing online, thanks for nothing jerkoff.  Are you related to Stevie Wonder?  Seriousely did you use a yardstick to measure it up?  When at first glance my tape measure told me you were drunk I should have listened, but no I thought maybe I wasn't seeing the holes quite right, after all who would go to all the trouble of drawing the motor in 3D if they weren't going to do it right...  So I made parts off your drawing only to find out nothing fits because some crosseyed inbred goat lover must have had his head up his ass while drawing pretty pictures.  My advice, stick to your crayons you half breed poser, if you had ever built anything in real life you would know that the numbers matter to people actually building something.  Next time you draw something don't use google earth to get a picture of it and scale from there, It will make all of our lives a little better.         

[fastcorvairs]

A small rant.


To the person who "drew" up the Busa and posted the drawing online, thanks for nothing jerkoff.  Are you related to Stevie Wonder?  Seriousely did you use a yardstick to measure it up?  When at first glance my tape measure told me you were drunk I should have listened, but no I thought maybe I wasn't seeing the holes quite right, after all who would go to all the trouble of drawing the motor in 3D if they weren't going to do it right...  So I made parts off your drawing only to find out nothing fits because some crosseyed inbred goat lover must have had his head up his ass while drawing pretty pictures.  My advice, stick to your crayons you half breed poser, if you had ever built anything in real life you would know that the numbers matter to people actually building something.  Next time you draw something don't use google earth to get a picture of it and scale from there, It will make all of our lives a little better.         

Dam Eng sorry to here you having all this bull.  Don't suppose you want to share who is causing it. 

Any way here is a link to a possible Busa for cheap.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Photos-Motorcycle-crashes-at-157mph-112264509.html

[SPEC]

Should have borrowed one of Fabr's i think he only has 3 or 4 layin around

[vidio1]

Holy cow........He lived through that?