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Offline Yummi

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Thinking outloud
« on: February 18, 2013, 03:45:37 PM »
So, I need more power.  Well, torque actually.  Currently have a 3.0 Honda that should be about 200hp, 195# @ 250 #'s of weight. 

Options, without breaking the bank look like j35 - 3.5 honda with 265hp, 250# tq

Found a buick 215 V8 with 250# tq and lower HP than the honda.  That intrigues me. 

Tell me plus and minus of 3.5 hond vs 215, the carb issue seems to have been resolved off road as I recall as all the Big Block cars run them.  Would be straight trade for my current 3.0 and my costs would be starter, and custom 8/1 exhaust plus install. 

Intrigued by thought of small 8 in the car with 250 tq. 


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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2013, 03:58:13 PM »
where does the power come in on the v-8 vs v-6?    i pre fer FI over carb but if you can make it work then hey why not. what is the weight diff?
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2013, 04:16:29 PM »
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 04:58:57 PM »
Overlay the torque curve of all 3.The one with the most area under the curve is the one you should choose.That's the one with the most usable tq.over the broadest range.
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 05:06:11 PM »
The Honda 3.5 would be the winner as it has the most area under  the curve as the tq maxs at a higher rpm. 
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 06:12:09 PM »
Most every Honda guy seems real happy.  The lower torque curve of the 3.5 seems to be the plus.  All will mate to the new trans?  New adapter plate I'm sure.  But all the ##'s will hold to the new gear box? 
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2013, 06:54:07 PM »
The Honda 3.5 would be the winner as it has the most area under  the curve as the tq maxs at a higher rpm.
Not necessarily. Have you charts of the curves?
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2013, 07:14:36 PM »
Leave the Buick to a museum. The castings on those weren't all that great to start out with. After all these years the chances of the block still being in really good shape are slim. Nothing like seeing coolant seeping out the side of the block......... I guaranty the Hondas will be cheaper and more reliable in the long run.

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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2013, 07:18:17 PM »
what is the cost of the 3.5 and/or v-8 swap compared to a turbo for the current?
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 07:42:55 PM »
700 inch plus mountain motor. Can't go wrong there.......................................... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I agree on the buick also. Boat anchor it.
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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2013, 07:47:25 PM »
I have played quite a bit with the Hondas and if done correctly they are quite good. Personally I would stay away from 50 year old motors, one of the areas where newer is pretty much always better.

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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 07:40:19 AM »
Not necessarily. Have you charts of the curves?

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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 07:41:45 AM »
what is the cost of the 3.5 and/or v-8 swap compared to a turbo for the current?

Swap on 3.5 would be about 3k for turn key.  Figure that would be better money than turbo for current?



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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 07:42:32 AM »
All right, boat anchor it is.  Just sounded like an interesting idea.  Can still find rover motors that are not 50 years old.....   

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Re: Thinking outloud
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2013, 09:47:12 AM »
Think of it as a 50 year old stripper.

 

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