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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Controls and Electrical => Topic started by: fabr on September 19, 2011, 08:22:57 PM
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I have no idea how much brighter the LED's are than the HID's in the open at night but in the shop the diff is WOW!!!!!!
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Yep, LED's are like looking at the sun. That's why HID's are going to soon be a thing of the past. ;D ;D ;D
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General consensus is that LEDs do a better job short range than HID re: Dispersion. You can and will out run an LED. It does not throw as far as an HID. I dont think the Kragen HID's are all that when it comes to time to see. So, that is not really a fair comparison. Great for Rhinos, et al, not so good for a long travel car at 60mph +. Think ACRO or other high end HID. Stupid bright, stupid far.
Most folks end up running a combo for that reason.
My night vision is bad and with glare I just about give up anymore. Somebody ever figures a good way to get the glare I would be happy. On the next car there will be some serious forethough that goes into light placement, etc as that seems to be one ticket to reduce glare.
For this car, maybe the next step is the amber lights for me..... Seems if that was the bees knees one would see more of them....
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BTW Fabr, as your car is not finished out yet re: color, etc - you can try some of the theories out.
1. Place the light bar at the mid point of the roof. Let the roof act as a visor from your own light. Get the light in front of your eyes.
2. Place some HID at the "B" Pillar or forward, again, seems to be good to leave your eyes dark looking into the light. If your face is lit up, even just a bit, from your own lights, chances are you can benefit from placing your lights at a different location.
Just food for thought.
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Mounting 2 6in Rigid LED's up front and 4 Baja Designs Fuego's on top mounted at the B pillar.
Anyone have small lights to light up left or right of the immediate front of the buggy?
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Mounting 2 6in Rigid LED's up front and 4 Baja Designs Fuego's on top mounted at the B pillar.
Anyone have small lights to light up left or right of the immediate front of the buggy?
Yep, I have one 50W flood light mounted on each side of my car, rite in front of the rear wheels. They are shooting out on a 45* angle. 8) 8) 8)
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Here's where they fit perfectly. Here's where they are going to stay. ;D ;D ;) ;) ;D ;D I may well put a couple of 4" flood LED's tho up front shining to the sides.
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Those lights look good! ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D Beats the shiot out of the bug eyes HID's. Actually they lit it up fine tho.
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Those lights look good! ;D ;D ;D
Gotta do a F/G roof now.................................. ;) ;)
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Looks good - like they were meant to be there. They seemed to be placed pretty far forward, so glare might not be an issue. Never really noticed the depth of your dash area before - mine is pretty shallow.
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Hey Fabr, what air filter are you running?
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Looks good - like they were meant to be there. They seemed to be placed pretty far forward, so glare might not be an issue. Never really noticed the depth of your dash area before - mine is pretty shallow.
Ya,they're plenty far enough forward to eliminate any glare to me. The HID's were fine and they were in the same place. Some people think that behind them is a good place. Not so as you pointed out unless the roof blocks the light from the cockpit..
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Just doing a K&N but I'd rather have one of those centrifugal ones. Forget the name. I might still mount one but the specs on one that is big enough for a busa is pretty bulky. Maybe I was misinterpreting the charts tho. I need to contact them to be sure. Just haven't had a spare second for so long i wouldn't know what to do with it. LOL!!!
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Those lights look good! ;D ;D ;D
I think so but that's not why/how I got them. As yummi said ,they look like they were meant to be there.I couldn't have gotten luckier with the fit. Perfect fit ! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Sometimes I get lucky.
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Just doing a K&N but I'd rather have one of those centrifugal ones. Forget the name. I might still mount one but the specs on one that is big enough for a busa is pretty bulky. Maybe I was misinterpreting the charts tho. I need to contact them to be sure. Just haven't had a spare second for so long i wouldn't know what to do with it. LOL!!!
Donaldson, and no your not mistaken on the flow charts. They do not flow all that well. Most of them have the inner safety filter. You can discard those for about a 30% increase in flow with no filtering capability loss.
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I am in the same boat. For the LS1 it looks like I would need 2 and I just do not have the room. At first I will use a K/N, but there are some filters out there that use a blue element and are dry cone shaped that are supposed to be a lot better than the K/N.
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My K&n is up out of the way of dust and mud. With an outer skin I don't feel there's worry.
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At first I will use a K/N, but there are some filters out there that use a blue element and are dry cone shaped that are supposed to be a lot better than the K/N.
Those dry air filters that you are trying to think of are made by AFE (advanced flow engineering). 8) 8) 8)
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My K&n is up out of the way of dust and mud. With an outer skin I don't feel there's worry.
I the type of conditions you drive in that's a decent set-up.
You will never hit the world pf brown outs like the Donaldson filters are designed for.
If you had miles of silt beds, you would need something like this.
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+1
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Looks good new night run leader!
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I prefer to follow................................... no leaps of faith for me my friends.
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I prefer to follow................................... no leaps of faith for me my friends.
"Leap of faith" that is what busted my trans on my last trip. Small leap at that, 4' drop. I to am a follower now. ;D ;D ;D
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I am trying to find a small pair (2" round) HID or LED to replace my stock halogens. I prefer the HIDs. I am not having much luck locating any. I run off of a stator so wattage is a big issue for me. I am lookinh to stay below 10 watts each. Any insight from you guys where I can locate some?
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Check out Lazer Star lights at Mooreparts.com. They have those 2" HID that your wanting. 8) 8) 8)
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I prefer to follow................................... no leaps of faith for me my friends.
Ahh.....Come on Fabr................... No balls no babies...... ;D ;D ;D
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I like my a arms just the way they are...................................................... ;D ;D ;D ;D rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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I like my a arms just the way they are...................................................... ;D ;D ;D ;D rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Yea, but it makes for GOOD future camp fire stories. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm thinking you need to b uy my HID's so you won't be jumping in to the unknown anymore. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm thinking you need to b uy my HID's so you won't be jumping in to the unknown anymore. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Maybe this winter. I'll have to see if I FUBAR anything on my car this trip. ;D ;D ;D
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Hmmmm,dark night,low light,fubar in near future................................................................... ;) ;) ;)
Just kidding.
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Hmmmm,dark night,low light,fubar in near future................................................................... ;) ;) ;)
Just kidding.
Yea I know, but sometimes $hit happens, it just happens alot more to me when there's to much CROWN involved. ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO I told DS the other night it was sorta his fault, for being sooo late. I need some more lights, but too many other fires first.
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Yea, you could sorta of say that. ;D ;D ;D
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no no no no i was late for a reason but cooter is a big boy and know's better ;) ;D rofl but the worst part of all!!!!!!! is that he didn't turn the damn camera on before!!!!!!!!! LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO you too carl! damn crown and cokes rofl rofl hell I could tell from your text's alone on my way there you were heading to the bottom of that bottle LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
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I am trying to find a small pair (2" round) HID or LED to replace my stock halogens. I prefer the HIDs. I am not having much luck locating any. I run off of a stator so wattage is a big issue for me. I am lookinh to stay below 10 watts each. Any insight from you guys where I can locate some?
contact enemy I think he is selling his old ones, 3 years old.
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I like my a arms just the way they are...................................................... ;D ;D ;D ;D rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
LMAO LMAO rofl rofl LMAO LMAO rofl rofl LMAO LMAO rofl rofl :-*
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Hmmmm,dark night,low light,fubar in near future................................................................... ;) ;) ;)
Just kidding.
you mean again! rofl ;)
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ya know trans that did and does and will make for a funny story for sometime to come. ;D ;D I just wish someone would've had a camera point at you to see that :o look on your face rofl rofl ;D
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ya know trans that did and does and will make for a funny story for sometime to come. ;D ;D I just wish someone would've had a camera point at you to see that :o look on your face rofl rofl ;D
When the wheels leave the sand, the only thing you can do is say HEEEEHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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you mean again! rofl ;)
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so fabbr is there a diff amp draw?
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4 each of the CSK's
Light Specification
6,000K Color temperature
3,200 Lumens
3.15-3.30 AMP Draw
2,500+ Hours Bulb Life
2 each 20" Rigid LED's
RDGL20PE
20" Length
84.96 Watts
5.9 Amp Draw
40 LED's
7900 Lumens
1750 Lux @ 10m