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Title: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 18, 2009, 07:17:28 PM: Here, see what you think......Here is a quick design I made for the above Idea, basically its just a housing likely out of steel for now and then I will make it out of Aluminum, CNC'd once I know it will work. I plan on two 530 chains on matching sprockets inside, and running them on 1.5" o.d. shafts through carrier or pillow block bearings on either side of the case, what do you think??
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 18, 2009, 07:22:31 PM: looks good, but timing two chains and adjusting for stretch is not likely do able... why not use a 530 2 row chain?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Boostinjdm on February 18, 2009, 08:58:53 PM
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 18, 2009, 09:00:59 PM: would two chains wear alike, and what if timing of the sprockets was one degree off, what chain would do more work? why not a off the shelf silent chain?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Boostinjdm on February 18, 2009, 09:06:09 PM: My theory is that after a break in period, the two chains would share the load. if you use two off the shelf sprokets and bolt them on with the same bolts, they will be in time. if they are off slightly, one will wear enought that the other one takes on the extra load and from then on the load will be distributed evenly. As for the silent chain.....cost.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 18, 2009, 09:13:37 PM: I would have to agree with Boostn, the two if installed new would wear in together allowing for even distribution since one would stretch then the other would be forced to do the same....or at least that's the theory....
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Yoshi on February 18, 2009, 09:31:08 PM: Quote from: Boostinjdm on February 18, 2009, 09:06:09 PM
My theory is that after a break in period, the two chains would share the load. if you use two off the shelf sprokets and bolt them on with the same bolts, they will be in time. if they are off slightly, one will wear enought that the other one takes on the extra load and from then on the load will be distributed evenly. As for the silent chain.....cost.
I also agree, I am working on a new dual chain setup and I was concerned in the beginning about one stretching more than the other, but if you think about it, one chain can't stretch more than the other since it has to pull on the other chain at the same time, so right after break in, I think they would have the exact same amount of slack as one another. I'll be running dual 630's on my setup...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Boostinjdm on February 18, 2009, 09:33:44 PM: What in the hell makes enough power to need twin 630's? :o
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Yoshi on February 18, 2009, 09:41:58 PM: Quote from: Boostinjdm on February 18, 2009, 09:33:44 PM
What in the hell makes enough power to need twin 630's? :o
What i'm doing may actually need 3.....::)
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 19, 2009, 07:49:59 AM: NO SECRETS! Lets see it!!
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 19, 2009, 07:52:15 AM: Quote from: Yoshi on February 18, 2009, 09:31:08 PM
I also agree, I am working on a new dual chain setup and I was concerned in the beginning about one stretching more than the other, but if you think about it, one chain can't stretch more than the other since it has to pull on the other chain at the same time, so right after break in, I think they would have the exact same amount of slack as one another. I'll be running dual 630's on my setup...

Plus, with the typical power plant, you will likely have less stretch than usual as well due to the higher total strength of the two.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 07:53:18 AM: 2- 100 dollar chains 4 sprocket mounting, i have to imagine a 2" silent chain off the shelf with gears splined would be cheaper, and much stronger IMO.. fabber has all the contact info, may be worth looking at...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Yoshi on February 19, 2009, 09:08:38 AM
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 09:24:23 AM: yes, but the design of the silent chain makes it stronger in our application than a standard 530 chain... maybe not tensile strength, but in the real world... fabbers car was a 3" i think, maybe 4, new design is 2, fabber offer your wisdom here...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Carlriddle on February 19, 2009, 09:33:50 AM: I guess Yoshi gonna put 18" wide slicks on the nitrous/turbo busa powered smart car?? Its just gonna flip over backwards, probably should go ahead and put wheelie bar mounts on frame while your welding.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 19, 2009, 09:46:16 AM: Quote from: Yoshi on February 19, 2009, 09:08:38 AM
I looked into the silent chains a while back, you need like a 5 or 6" wide chain to have the same load strength as a couple 530 chains believe it or not, the the wider chain and gears are a small fortune as well. I would do the 2 smaller chains in an oil bath, that might not be a bad deal...
BS! that info about the silent chain is wrong. .5" pitch Ramsey RPV is 11000#'s strength per inch of width and much smaller diameter sprockets than 630 or 530 roller chain.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Yoshi on February 19, 2009, 10:14:51 AM: Quote from: Masterfabr on February 19, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
BS! that info about the silent chain is wrong. .5" pitch Ramsey RPV is 11000#'s strength per inch of width and much smaller diameter sprockets than 630 roller chain.
when I talked to them, I was going off the 17k tensile strength of the krauss chain, so with your info I would need a 3" wide Ramsey chain to meet that (17k x 2 = 34k divided by 11k = just over 3"), but when I called Ramsey, they were saying I was gonna need at least a 5" wide chain for the RPM's they would see.

It doesn't really matter, between using 2 regular 11k 530 chains, or one 2" wide Ramsey chain, i'd take the 2 chains since they are smaller, lighter, and the sprockets are cheaper...IMO
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 19, 2009, 10:32:12 AM: Ramsey uses a safety factor of approx 16:1 for rating chains. You need to talk to them in more detail before you go jumping to conclusions.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 19, 2009, 10:37:18 AM: I'm gonna make an assumption here and say that your rpms were wrong also.Remember that the COUNTERSHAFT rpm is all that matters,NOT the engine rpm.Soooo,take the 11K redline and reduce that by the primary reduction of 1.596 I believe it is on a busa and you have a MAX rpm of 6892. Then consider that you will only rarely be traveling at max rpm for fairly short periods and the rpm AVERAGE goes WAY down. Likely no more than 4K average at most. Then reduce the safety factor to 5 or 6 and you get a reasonable size capable recommendation.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 01:52:30 PM: the ramsey chain spreads the load as well, its not concentrated on the pins like a 530 chain..
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 19, 2009, 01:57:00 PM: Actually the RPV forms an involute profile in the sprocket and due to that will show very little wear.THe biggest benefit is the 2 piece pin.It rolls against itself with no sliding contact with itself or the links similar to how a ball bearing rolls in its' races.Therefore little to no wear occurs.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 19, 2009, 05:24:18 PM: Ok Fabr, but do I really need it? I think just from a dummy standpoint, I could get by with the 530's couldn't I? Then I don't need to educate myself, just buy sprockets and chains and away I go!
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 05:36:32 PM: IMO the 530 dbl is not ideal, but may work, im still skepticle about stretch... and getting timing perfect... sprockets will need to be made identical, likely they are anyways, but a few degrees off from bolt holes to teeth will be a disappointment... what gear ratio you shooting for? 5:1
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 05:38:27 PM: Out of curiosity, why not use a snowmobile chaincase and be done? one with reverse? just machine a new case so the final shaft can go all the way thru it? snow machine weigh 700 lbs and see 200 hp..
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 05:39:54 PM: or just use the gear and chain...

http://media.snowmobilefanatics.com/gallery/gallerycontentresized/Member%20Images/General/resized_2008124141324921_17257.jpg (http://media.snowmobilefanatics.com/gallery/gallerycontentresized/Member%20Images/General/resized_2008124141324921_17257.jpg)
I bet you could source a used gearbox cheaper than buying the 530 chain...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 05:41:08 PM: I have suspicion i could have a ski doo revers gear box shipped to you in about 10 days for 2 bills...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 19, 2009, 05:48:56 PM: Quote from: Whiplash on February 19, 2009, 05:24:18 PM
Ok Fabr, but do I really need it? I think just from a dummy standpoint, I could get by with the 530's couldn't I? Then I don't need to educate myself, just buy sprockets and chains and away I go!
IMO ONE 530 in an oilbath does the job fine. There are advantages to the silent such as reduced sprocket diameter as compared to 530 let alone 630 sprocket s sizes but, I'm not trying to say YOU need to use a silent chain.I was just pointing out to Yoshi that he has some misconceptions about silent chains.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Yummi on February 19, 2009, 05:51:37 PM: Let me translate that for you.........

You're not stupid.

Yoshi: Yoshi is stupid!

:o

kidding yoshi, you know I kid. :-*
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 19, 2009, 06:06:51 PM: Quote from: Whiplash on February 19, 2009, 05:24:18 PM
Ok Fabr, but do I really need it? I think just from a dummy standpoint, I could get by with the 530's couldn't I? Then I don't need to educate myself, just buy sprockets and chains and away I go!
I'm gonna add this.If I was goingto do an enclosed oil bath chain case with roller chain I'd use a 50 pitch duplex or triplex sprocket and non o-ring duplex or triplex chain. The overall width will be less and the sprockets are readily available as is the chain. You do not want o ring chain in an oil bath use.It prevents oil circulation around the pins where it's needed.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Boostinjdm on February 19, 2009, 06:13:32 PM: I have been looking at duplex chain rather than double singles. I am having trouble locating sprockets I will be satisfied with. Any source suggestions? I can't seem to make up my mind on chain untill I know all the angles...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 19, 2009, 06:27:42 PM: Martin sprockets for one
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 19, 2009, 09:50:21 PM: Where is the best place to but chains and sprockets anyway, I was going to get the ones from Doug, but since you will not see them, no sense spending the extra $$ Just cheap old steel ones should do just fine and I think a 5:1 ratio sounds good eh Bug? I want it to top out around 100 or so flat out on the limiter and get going FAST, I am running the 30" Padla traks I think they are 30 anyway...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Engineer on February 19, 2009, 09:53:18 PM: How many RPM does that ECO turn? Definately apples and oranges to Bug's Rotax. Of course your tires are taller. I would crunch the numbers to make sure of the reduction.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 09:57:57 PM: 6500 on the eco right? I need more ratio, id like 7.5:1, eco has more torque, i would think 5:1 be good...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Engineer on February 19, 2009, 10:09:52 PM: Ok 100 MPH with a 30" tire is 1121 RPM at the axle. So if you have a 5:1 with the chainbox you are at 5605 at the secondary of the clutch. If the clutch tops out at 1:1 you are very close. Take a 5.8 : 1 to get to 6500 RPM at 100 MPH and 1:1 on the clutch. So anywhere between 5 and 6 to 1 would be a good starting point.

And definately don't use O-ring chain in an oil bath.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 10:10:50 PM: Id shoot for 6:1 then...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Rick S. on February 19, 2009, 10:17:40 PM: I can make the large sprockets with any tooth count you want. Your design or mine.
Identical pairs too.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 20, 2009, 07:17:21 AM: What would they run for two sets 6:1 and can you get the chains as well? I need em cheap as that is the rule for this project! Thanks!
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Yoshi on February 20, 2009, 07:42:32 AM: Although I was thinking the same thing about not using o-ring chains in a oil bath, I started wondering if it's actually correct? O ring does just fine in the air, when people use a thick wax/grease that penetrates, even though it is always wanting to fly off. Ooil is thinner and should have no problem working it's way into the pins, especially since the o-rings are not tight and the chain is always moving side to side. I'm wondering if it would be ok to use o-rings in there, it would definitely make it quieter.

I would think you would need to soak the chain is something to remove all the grease first though, otherwise it may prevent the oil from doing it's job..

Just a thought.....
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 20, 2009, 07:53:51 AM: Quote from: Whiplash on February 20, 2009, 07:17:21 AM
What would they run for two sets 6:1 and can you get the chains as well? I need em cheap as that is the rule for this project! Thanks!

well the problem lies in size, at 6:1 you need if you had a 10 front , yes i know is to small.... 10:60, the chain case is gonna be monsterous... Now back to silent chain, probbaly reduce the size by 1/2...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Bennyhanna on February 20, 2009, 09:23:52 AM: I'm making the same thing with double 50 sprokets, 13/40. Getting the rest of the reduction outside of the box as I'm using an sv1000 engine. If you go thru martin you must buy 10 feet of chain at about $15.00 a foot. Try mcmaster carr as you can buy it by the foot. I got about 7 feet left if someone wants to buy some. I'll try to post a pic of my progress over the weekend.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Rick S. on February 20, 2009, 09:46:14 AM: I would need to know how many teeth you need on the sprocket, and what pitch. 6:1 doesn't tell me anything.
I would also need your desired hole pattern and bore.
How wide is each sprocket? If it's 1/4 I could probably do the pair for 75. I'm only guessing, since I have no idea what diameter you're talking about. Maybe it's mentioned somewhere else in this thread, but I've been too busy to read everything.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Engineer on February 20, 2009, 09:58:49 AM: Quote from: Bennyhanna on February 20, 2009, 09:23:52 AM
I'm making the same thing with double 50 sprokets, 13/40. Getting the rest of the reduction outside of the box as I'm using an sv1000 engine. If you go thru martin you must buy 10 feet of chain at about $15.00 a foot. Try mcmaster carr as you can buy it by the foot. I got about 7 feet left if someone wants to buy some. I'll try to post a pic of my progress over the weekend.

DO NOT USE THAT CHAIN!! IT WILL FAIL. Motorcycle chain is much stronger than industrial chain. Someone had a story on the Mcmaster chain.... It's tensil strength is much less. I don't know about the tensil on the Martin chain, but I would look into the strength numbers, not the price for chain for this application.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 10:44:36 AM
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 10:46:34 AM: Quote from: Engineer on February 20, 2009, 09:58:49 AM

DO NOT USE THAT CHAIN!! IT WILL FAIL. Motorcycle chain is much stronger than industrial chain. Someone had a story on the Mcmaster chain.... It's tensil strength is much less. I don't know about the tensil on the Martin chain, but I would look into the strength numbers, not the price for chain for this application.
;) ;)
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Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 10:47:27 AM: Make sure,IMO, that it is a true roller type also.
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Post by: Bennyhanna on February 20, 2009, 02:02:14 PM: Well, this sucks as I have already bought everything!!! It's not from mcmaster though, it's a good name brand in a blue box, just cant think of the name. I'll get the name on sunday. I'm about 99% sure its roller chain, looks just like a streetbike chain but double wide with four plates. I believe its strength was of minimum of 12000 lbs.?? and it will be in oil behind about 110 hp I think. this is bad news
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 20, 2009, 03:10:43 PM: Any idea where I could buy the Silent chain I need Master? If its something I can get easily and the sprockets as well I might try it, but if not I will just have a big box....I already got a small one.....Hehe....
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Engineer on February 20, 2009, 03:20:07 PM: Quote from: Bennyhanna on February 20, 2009, 02:02:14 PM
Well, this sucks as I have already bought everything!!! It's not from mcmaster though, it's a good name brand in a blue box, just cant think of the name. I'll get the name on sunday. I'm about 99% sure its roller chain, looks just like a streetbike chain but double wide with four plates. I believe its strength was of minimum of 12000 lbs.?? and it will be in oil behind about 110 hp I think. this is bad news

If it's blue it may be diamond. That is the best of the Industrial chain. I would check the MFR spec on tensile strength once you know what it is, and compare that to the tensile claims of a good motorcycle chain for a Busa or something big. With Double width and 100 HP you may be ok.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 05:05:15 PM: Quote from: Engineer on February 20, 2009, 03:20:07 PM
If it's blue it may be diamond. That is the best of the Industrial chain. I would check the MFR spec on tensile strength once you know what it is, and compare that to the tensile claims of a good motorcycle chain for a Busa or something big. With Double width and 100 HP you may be ok.
IMO if it's in the 11+K range it will be fine. No problem.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 05:11:10 PM: Quote from: Whiplash on February 20, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
Any idea where I could buy the Silent chain I need Master? If its something I can get easily and the sprockets as well I might try it, but if not I will just have a big box....I already got a small one.....Hehe....
Ramsey Chain but, you said you want cheap. THey are not as expensive as yoshi let on but it is not nearly as cheap as roller chain and sprockets. What hp range you running ,what is average COUNTERSHAFT rpm and HP at that rpm ,what is max CS rpm and HP at that rpm? I'll run the numbers for you. Oh,and what tooth count you want for drive and driven?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Engineer on February 20, 2009, 05:22:55 PM: Quote from: Masterfabr on February 20, 2009, 05:11:10 PM
Ramsey Chain but, you said you want cheap. THey are not as expensive as yoshi let on but it is not nearly as cheap as roller chain and sprockets. What hp range you running ,what is average COUNTERSHAFT rpm and HP at that rpm ,what is max CS rpm and HP at that rpm? I'll run the numbers for you. Oh,and what tooth count you want for drive and driven?

Let me help you get those numbers Fabr..... let me turn back a page here..... yep....yep....yep.....

OK, Hes is running a Ecotec, so 200hp, 150ft/lbs at 6500 rpm through a CVT so 200hp, 150 ft/lbs at 6500rpm at max ratio of 1:1 at the input shaft. He wants a 6:1 ratio with the chain. So how small can you go on the silent chain to carry that hp at a 6:1 ratio? And BTW don't you have an experimental unit sitting around with almost those specs?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 20, 2009, 07:44:05 PM: Experimental unit? ;D Sounds interesting, but I really want headroom in there for more power, that's why I am going with two chains, I would like to be able to turbo it eventually. Figure about a max of 350 HP and a peak RPM of 6800 tops...Basically for the tooth count 6:1 ratio is good and whatever is the smallest and will still take the power.
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Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 07:47:06 PM: What will be the average RPM and what HP at that RPM?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 07:53:55 PM: Oh yeah the experimental unit burned up along with the buggy. I do still have the sprockets and the chain might be salvageable. I have 2 sets of shafts I believe shafts .All you need is a new housing and bearings/seals. Maybe a chain. I'll sell all for 200 bux.The custom large sprocket cost me 600. Would have been 1/3 of that if I'd have known all the tooth counts available were not considered stock. LOL!!!! I'll have to recheck but I think the ratio was 4.56:1 tho. Or very close to that anyway. If you're interested I'll look tomorrow.
Bug is right tho that if you enclose a big sprocket you have a BIG case.Tjhink about it . You'll lose a ton of ground clearance.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 20, 2009, 08:02:48 PM: pic
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Post by: Boostinjdm on February 20, 2009, 09:28:13 PM: I just downloaded a program from ramsey and it seems to me they really want to sell 3" chain....
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 24, 2009, 07:05:37 PM: Any idea where you can find good 530 chain at a reasonable price? and do #50 ansi chain sprockets fit 530 chain?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 24, 2009, 07:11:00 PM: No,yes and it's not a good idea IMO as the pins bear a greater load in their middle due to the wider width of the 530 chain compared to the ansi spec #50 sprocket.
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 24, 2009, 07:22:27 PM: the number 50 sprockets i bought were wide as a 530 all day long...
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Post by: Whiplash on February 24, 2009, 08:15:54 PM
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Post by: Admin on February 24, 2009, 08:17:19 PM: IMO ansi 50 sprockets are pretty cheasy, the g and g ones wernt to bad...
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 24, 2009, 09:13:12 PM: G and G?? What is that?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: SPEC on February 25, 2009, 04:56:34 AM: Quote from: Whiplash on February 24, 2009, 08:15:54 PM
so they were ok? I am torn between some from bug and the McMaster carr stuff..but his is actually cheaper so I will likely go his route. So no goo deals on 530 chain, even a decent place to get them, or just Ebay or something?

I live right by dennis kirk's sratch and dent...Gimme a price that's good for you and how many links...I'll go and see what they got
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: fabr on February 25, 2009, 05:59:54 AM: Quote from: Whiplash on February 24, 2009, 09:13:12 PM
G and G?? What is that?
2 girls standing in the same place. One has a g and the other has a g. That's a G&G spot. ;D
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Admin on February 25, 2009, 06:01:59 AM: Im just curious, your gonna dump a bunch of money into this contraption, why not just stick a cvt on that honda gear box, throw it in the trash if it doesnt work?
Title: Re: Basic Dwg. of chaincase idea......Whataya think?
Post by: Whiplash on February 25, 2009, 07:26:08 AM: Well, really it comes down to space limitations, I don't think I can get anything else in there unless I use the Reverse box which is out of the question price wise, so I basically need to just get it together for a little as possible, I am confident this will work and I already have the stuff to make the electric reverse for it, so that's all I can afford right now, once I get it running, I will refine things, but for now this is what I got to do to get it done by next season. I still need to buy shocks, front rims/tires, a few heims, steering stuff, AND put it all together! So I have my work cut out for me already with the money situation. I figure this box will only cost me about 300.00 all said and done and I can live with that. I also need the CVT as well!!*&^%$$^! 5: