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Offline Wyattboche

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Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« on: November 16, 2009, 01:49:08 PM »
Making 2 wood splitters. First is for a skidsteer. It has a 5"x30" cylinder will be mounted upside down. Father in-law goes to jobsites and clears out woods for houses and some of the trees are pretty fu*king huge 4' plus dia. Wood lengths will be around 24-30" long for the outdoor wood furance.  Using a 6"x8'x.25" I beam for the main support.Useing a 12" wedge supported by a 3"x5" piece of tubing.



Second Wood Splitter, mine will be horizontal,vertical. Same I beam 6"x8'x.25". Want to make the lower frame out of 4"x6"x3' Square tubing for the tank. Then the hitch will be welded to the top of the tank. Using a 6.5 hp motor with a 11GPM pump. Cylinder is 4"x24" stroke 3000 PSI. Haven't started this project yet as I'm waiting for Northern Tool to call so I can go pick up my order.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 05:12:16 PM »
Nice!

Are you going to use rollers or slides for the moving end?
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 10:22:40 AM »
It will be a slide. 1/2" plate will be used for the pusher end.
Need some help. How do I fiqure out volume? How much volume is in a 3"x6"x.25"x3' piece of tubing? I'm looking for gals. I'm debating if I wanta use the 3"x6"x.25"x3' tubing or use a 8" I beam the lower frame. I have a external 5gal tank but would be nice to have the lower frame as the main resovior. Need opions
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 12:39:51 PM »
1 gallon is 231 cubic inches. So 2.5" ID x5.5" ID x 36" divided by 231=2.143 gallon.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 03:20:21 PM »
Quote from: Masterfabr on November 18, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
1 gallon is 231 cubic inches. So 2.5" ID x5.5" ID x 36" divided by 231=2.143 gallon.
Thanks Fabr. Need at least 5 gal. capacity
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 04:31:59 PM »
Why? you will only be cycling 2.55 gallons max on that cylinder. Add about 1 gal cushion and expansion room and a 3.5 gal resi will be plenty.The most that can be cycled is the volume of the  cylinder.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 04:34:00 PM »
You will need to fill and purge air at the same time by cycling the cylinder while adding fluid till both ends of the cylinder is full,then all you gotta do is keep the resi at proper level.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 10:45:17 AM »
What do you use on the fittings, pipe dope or tape? Wont the oil get hot from not enough volume? Thata what the Northern Tool rep recomened for my app.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 01:00:01 PM »
IMO, if you get the oil hot enough to harm anything  you're a hell of a man. But that's just my opinion. Yes some additional volume will lower temps but hot(not overheated) hydraulic oil performs better/lubes better than cold and quicker warm up is a  benefit if splitting in cold weather.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 03:30:03 PM »
Just awaiting for the machine shop to get done making our shims for the slid. I went to the local steel shop and got pricing on some 6" 25lb 8' long I beams and misc plate work. Fabr I agree will you. The splitter will be ran mostly in the fall early winter. I need to plas the 10' I beam down to a length of 3' for my splitter. Then can start on lower frame tomorrow. As for  the hitch coppler should I weld it to the 2 1/2" steel tubing or bolt it on?
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 03:33:23 PM »
Again IMO only ,welding is the only way to fly.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 03:35:20 PM »
Quote from: Wyattboche on November 19, 2009, 10:45:17 AM
What do you use on the fittings, pipe dope or tape? Wont the oil get hot from not enough volume? Thata what the Northern Tool rep recomened for my app.
Tape is fine for most anything but I prefer dope for high pressure lines. My buddy the plumber prefers dope all the time-quicker to use.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 04:18:22 PM »
Dope is good... My minni is taped ...Cuz I need to change stuff and Dope can be a bitch to get the stuff that hardened up off to get a good seal after you have to take it apart
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 10:56:37 PM »
Yellow dope or tape.  And heat will be a problem if you run it for hours on end.  A guy I know got a big ole fancy splitter and it will get so hot you can burn yourself on the lines or even the cylinder.  May not be quite hot enough to damage seals and such, but it's too hot for me to be comfortable with.
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Re: Woodsplitters 2 diffrent styles
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2009, 12:30:20 AM »
Does the dope seal as good as the tape? Again the Northern tool rep said not to use tape as it will get into the pump and cylinder and f*ck it up. That dope does it ever get hard? Used it last week and still tacky.
I don't see it having a problem geting hot when the weather is in the 40's. And usualy your spliting wood ether in the fall or early spring. I can't see myself spliting wood in the summer when its 80 degrees outside.
Has anyone seen the dual action log spliter? Where you can split in both directions? Just wondering how its made?
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