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Title: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on August 04, 2014, 06:59:55 PM
Well,I have.LRS @ GD.com posted up the professional model of this

http://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com/AirLift-II-Cooling-System-Tool-P54899.aspx?gclid=CMLi_d2C-78CFcI7MgodmlsAog (http://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com/AirLift-II-Cooling-System-Tool-P54899.aspx?gclid=CMLi_d2C-78CFcI7MgodmlsAog)


 I bought this one for a little over 1/2 the cost of the one he posted. Made by the same company. Nothing but good reviews anywhere on either one. For $80,I'll happily make the purchase to avoid the hassle of burping. Trapped air can cause alll kinds of crap to happen. All bad.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: Lance-W on August 04, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
bad link.........
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: BDKW1 on August 04, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
Just about every race car I have worked on needed one of those to get all the air out of the system. Anything with the radiator not mounted directly in front of the motor will need one.

Also, high temp Schrader valves mounted at the high points really help.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on August 04, 2014, 07:59:59 PM
bad link.........
Try it now. I bought mine from amazon even though I don't like them. I usually pay sales tax since one of their distribution centers is 5 miles from my house. thumb down This shipped from another so,no tax. ;D
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on August 04, 2014, 08:03:31 PM
Just about every race car I have worked on needed one of those to get all the air out of the system. Anything with the radiator not mounted directly in front of the motor will need one.

Also, high temp Schrader valves mounted at the high points really help.
That works on initial fill and for periodic checking. I will be plumbing those spots to the pressurized surge tank to have constant air bleeding though . Many cars are plumbed this way now.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fastcorvairs on August 04, 2014, 08:51:13 PM
Bought the same unit two or three years back.  Only way to to fill a radiator now days.  Was told was the only way on a LS motor. 
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: BDKW1 on August 04, 2014, 09:34:50 PM
LS's seem to be really picky even with all the steam bleeds hooked up on the heads.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on August 04, 2014, 09:43:45 PM
My blue buggy was the worst I ever encountered.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on August 04, 2014, 10:31:15 PM
looks like a nice kit but honestly as long as the radiator has been even or higher than the heads, i have never had a problem bleeding a radiator on bikes or auto engines. i do drill an 1/8" hole in the thermostats before hand as well and have always found that to help. just lucky...maybe.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on August 05, 2014, 06:11:25 AM
Just lucky. Many engines today have lots of places to trap steam pockets .
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: Carlriddle on August 05, 2014, 06:16:05 AM
I still think air was part of my cooling problems in past?  Raising the rad up quit a bit made burping much easier, better air too, so who knows.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: Lance-W on August 05, 2014, 06:21:46 AM
i do drill an 1/8" hole in the thermostats before hand as well and have always found that to help.

Always.  At least one.  Usually 2-3 holes
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on August 05, 2014, 06:24:56 AM
That just removes the most common air trap. It does nothing to remove trapped air elsewhere in some systems.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: BDKW1 on August 05, 2014, 08:08:56 AM
Race trucks with rear mounted radiator=headache no matter how high the radiator is mounted.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on August 05, 2014, 05:31:59 PM
just lucky then i guess lol mine is a rear ( behind the motor)  mounted radiator but not a race truck
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on August 05, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
we call that Carlluck remember ??? ??? ???   ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on August 05, 2014, 07:16:46 PM
we call that Carlluck remember ??? ??? ???   ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

 LMAO LMAO     thumb down i'm not that lucky  rofl
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: Carlriddle on August 06, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
Come on lucky lotto ##'s.  Daddy needs a new toy!!   LMAO LMAO
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on April 11, 2018, 07:08:46 PM
Thought I'd revisit this topic. It is STILL one of the best things I have ever bought.  Hassle free,no spills and it fills every nook and cranny in the entire cooling system first time ,every time. Well worth the $80. Still same price as 4 years ago, too!

Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on April 11, 2018, 08:21:54 PM
how does it work?
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on April 11, 2018, 08:37:32 PM
Thought I'd revisit this topic. It is STILL one of the best things I have ever bought.  Hassle free,no spills and it fills every nook and cranny in the entire cooling system first time ,every time. Well worth the $80. Still same price as 4 years ago, too!
  :m
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on April 11, 2018, 08:40:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlMlj3gGgRY
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on April 12, 2018, 12:09:08 PM
cannot say i have ever seen one. i like it and will be buying one.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on April 12, 2018, 12:38:17 PM
I think you saw it just about August 04, 2014, 10:31:15 PM  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on April 13, 2018, 12:43:06 PM
don't remember that but that doesn't  mean anything  :D

so i looked them up an bought one night before last!
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on April 13, 2018, 01:08:16 PM
 I guarantee you won't ever have buyers remorse. Just hang the thing with the hose hanging down for a couple days so the hose straightens out before using. I store mine like that.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on April 13, 2018, 03:42:39 PM
i'm going to try it out on my diesel first. haven't changed coolant in a couple years now but there a hard one to get the air out of and it has gotten warmer than i would like to see in the tall hill in wyoming on the st a trip since i did.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on April 13, 2018, 04:27:48 PM
It takes about a minute to pull full vacumn. Might take Several minutes to fully fill system. Follow the directions advice on putting your fill bucket as high as possible and it goes quicker. I pull a vacumn and let it sit for a few minutes before filling. If there is any loss of vacumn,there is a leak needing fixed first.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: dsrace on April 14, 2018, 09:56:12 AM
will do and my overflow is the fill which is higher than the radiator itself as it sits on top of the radiator.
Title: Re: Ever Had Trouble Burping Radiator?
Post by: fabr on April 14, 2018, 11:15:56 AM
Just don't let the fill tube suck air at any time.
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