Looking for Transmission Gurus! Manual and Auto Front engine rear drive!

[fabr]

BTW,in effect you are suggesting just what I have done with my car. Only difference is a driveshaft. Now the autbox tranny is an intriguing new idea. I'm concerned aout the torque needed to run it is all.

[Nutz4sand]

Ok and I do have to stand corrected as I missed the "AND" in your one statement. So I fooked up there and you were correct.

[fabr]

I read what you said but I also read this.
From where you said:

In the lower gears the bikes clutch sees less load so its got it easier.

either we're on completely different pages or you haven't thought this throuh.

[Nutz4sand]

Unless you run the bike motor in 5th or 6th and I doubt the bike clutch will hold up to that usage. Again maybe wrong but,IMO, that's the case.

Theres the AND I missed that made what you said right.

I know this is the same kind of idea as yours Fabr with a different layout but Its more doable for those of use who do not have the menas to do all that.

Most of the custom pieces in my idea are cut from flat plate and you could do it with a jigsaw if you NEEDED too!

Plus I am liking the front engine setup more each time I see that Sandrocket at the dunes here kicking tail. It seesm to run the dunes and drag race and even jump as good as anything out there.

[Nutz4sand]

either we're on completely different pages or you haven't thought this throuh.

No I figured out what I missed you were talking about and agreed you DID have it spot on and I was wrong.

So we were on diff pages but on the same now. I do agree with your origianl statements about the loads as you stated it.   

[fabr]

I LIKE the idea and again I agree with you. I just think that an automatic will be too parasitic. But,as I said,I could be wrong. I also think that the closer you keep the car balanced similar to a full size car F/R ratios the better.   Therefore I think you will want the engine as far back as possible. Just my 2 cents.

[fabr]

And YES,I've had a bad day and feel like my avatar tonite. LOL!!! Sorry if I was a bit gruff.

[lupus1]

What about something like this. V8 with tranny running to jag rearend. I saw this at the buugy show in Lansing. He said it is smooth as hell but darts on jumps.

[fabr]

Jag rears are too wide for long travel. It's small wonder it darts. I'm betting more than 50% weight up front.

[Nutz4sand]

That pic you posted Lupus1 is either a sand rocket or a clone of one and not unlike my idea except with a bike or sled motor feeding a smaller (narrower) rear end than the Jag uses. Many good prospectable rear ends to potentially use. 

Cars do not lawn dart unless the driver backs off on the jump just before the launch.

I can make a Honda Pilot lawn dart if I back off of it. Or keep the front high if I stay in it. Nearly all its weight is in the rear.

The motor up front DOES NOT make the nose dive. That is a misconception. One most people have. Rear engines really only help make a wheelie machine. It can help traction but it can also hinder acceleration if the car cannot keep the front end down and to much rear weight/not enough front makes for piss poor steering.

I have seen more rear engine cars land on the nose (mostly cause there are more rear engined cars) but more due to driver backing off the gas right before the jump lip or actually due to the engines weight out the back casues poorly set up shocks to the rear end high.

Weight does not determine which end of the car falls fastest. Its how the car last reacted to the ground as it left it that does.

 

[fabr]

50% correct. 50%

[fabr]

 

[Nutz4sand]

50% correct. 50%

An explanation of what you think is 50% right and 50% wrong would be preferred!

[Boostinjdm]

Why bike engine?

[Nutz4sand]

Why bike engine?

The right bike engine in a light machine makes for a faster machine than a larger heavier car engine. Well maybe not faster but quicker. But usually both.

I am a bigger guy but I still prefer a lighter more nimble machine usually when I am in the drivers seat.

Other the lack of reverse a good bike or sled engine make for a much better mini sand car most of the time in my . Thus why I am looking at this idea.