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Title: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Stomper on August 08, 2011, 10:36:42 AM
What kind of travel could be had with the intrepid axles. If the left side was used as it is the longer of the two. Would they work for a buggy with only 8" of travel. Or maybe the ford f150 or s-10 axles and hubs. What kind of travel could be had with these. I would think that the 4wd stuff would have more angle.
I am looking for an off the shelf solution for axles and hubs. Obviously I am not looking for a 12" travel buggy

Anyone have any experience with this.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Carlriddle on August 08, 2011, 11:22:49 AM
I'd use the long side axle, unless your wanting a narrow buggy, they'll easily give 8-12".  Issue will be spline shaft for inside, is it common, or maybe pull one from the tranny? 
But for $70 http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_New-CV-Axle-Shaft-Assembly-GSP_15870322-P_945_R%7CGRP60007_524486026____
with a limited lifetime warrenty.  rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Stomper on August 08, 2011, 12:26:01 PM
I was thinking about using two left sides. As far as the inboard cv I was thinking about cutting off the stub peice and welding a flange to it and make a flange for my center axle. Are those axles in the link for an intrepid?

I found these for a good price and free shipping. At least in canada. ;D
I don't know how they can even make them for that price.

 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2000-CHRYSLER-INTREPID-Wheel-Bearing-Hub-Assembly-FRONT-/160593405772?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item25641ce74c
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Carlriddle on August 08, 2011, 01:20:52 PM
Yep 2000 model.   Now your going to void your warrenty. LMAO
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: LiveWire on August 08, 2011, 01:37:37 PM
The F-150 joint fits the Intrepid hub. 930 shafts fit the F-150 joint although you could probably just use the F-150 shafts. The splines on the joints are a little longer than the hub so I laser cut the spacer rings along with the plates to weld into the knuckles.

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Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Stomper on August 08, 2011, 01:50:47 PM
Livewire
So both of those cv's are from the f-150 and the axle is a 930. How long is the axle shaft. Is the ford lug bolt pattern 5/4.5"
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: LiveWire on August 08, 2011, 02:23:29 PM
Yes, those are both F-150 CVs: http://aftershockmotorsports.com/Custom-Buggy-Parts/Driveline/High-Angle-Heavy-Duty-CV-Joint

That is a 28" axle, the longest EMPI sells. The Ford lug pattern is 5 on 135mm. The lug pattern on the pictured Intrepid hub is 5 on 4.5".
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Stomper on August 08, 2011, 04:50:48 PM
Do you have any idea what the length of the ford axle is?
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: fabr on August 08, 2011, 07:19:36 PM
Opinion time. This is a very good way to go
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Stomper on August 08, 2011, 07:23:24 PM
Opinion time. This is a very good way to go

Please explain
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: dsrace on August 08, 2011, 10:01:08 PM
Do you have any idea what the length of the ford axle is?

I have one in the shop and the stock axle is short, don't know how short at this time but probably 14" I would guess. this isn't a bad way to go especially for a mini. I have been using jeep wheel bearings for some time now w/o problems on cycle powered and my v-6 powered.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: Engineer on August 08, 2011, 10:46:26 PM
Those EMPI axles are very reasonable and you can  get them in 2" increments up to 28" depending what you need.


To run that setup though you will have to have minimal plunge.  Trailing arms WILL NOT WORK.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: fabr on August 09, 2011, 05:59:43 AM
A arms will tho if well designed.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: LiveWire on August 09, 2011, 07:35:16 AM
...I have been using jeep wheel bearings for some time now w/o problems on cycle powered and my v-6 powered.

I don't think you will have problems. A CV joint on an off road car has to handle shock load that it does not see on the street. A street car can't have the wheel fall off when the car hits a pot hole at 80. I think the Intrepid hubs and bearings are strong enough although lighter than the F-150 ones.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: LiveWire on March 05, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
I brought this thread back to life to group these pictures together. Carl asked me to get some pictures with a 12" wheel. You can see the hub and even with the generic plates I made fit quite easily in the wheel. That is a front tire, I sold the wheels I had rear tires mounted on.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: fabr on March 05, 2012, 10:48:57 AM
Are the ball grooves/tracks parallel or converging?
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: LiveWire on March 05, 2012, 12:04:20 PM
I assume you mean the CVs. I guess I would say parallel based on what I think you are trying to get at. They don't alternate back and forth like a 930 joint. They also are not a straight line relative to the axle which is why I hesitate to call them parallel. They arc around the pivot point.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: fabr on March 05, 2012, 01:18:02 PM
Yes,parallel arcs is what I meant.
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: pipelayer on March 06, 2012, 04:55:58 PM
what are the size of those tires the actual not whats on them and the brand if you dont mind Im looking to loose some rotating mass and go with the 12 inch wheels I have in the shop?
Thanks Brian
Title: Re: off the shelf hubs and axles
Post by: LiveWire on March 06, 2012, 05:01:30 PM
I'll try to get a measurement next time I am near them.
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