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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #735 on: February 21, 2010, 07:50:22 AM »
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #736 on: February 21, 2010, 05:17:15 PM »
Quote from: masterfabr on February 18, 2010, 07:30:48 PM
Well,I FINALLY made SOMETHING on the VMC.OK ,hold down the laughter! rofl rofl rofl It's not much but if you started from knowing nothing at all about cnc machines nor ever having run one to rebuilding the damn thing,diagnosing the electrical/electronics issues to learning how to run the thing with no help I must say WHEW!!!!!!! I'm fricken happy as hell to get this simple little thing done. Look out Aluminum ,here I come! rofl rofl

Good to see you made some chips sawdust!  ;D  rofl

I use aluminum jaws just like that then wedge a piece betwen them raised at the front to take all the "lift" out of the moving jaw, then cut a notch out of the front and rear jaw to hold your material.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #737 on: February 21, 2010, 05:33:31 PM »
I seem to remember you saying that.Great tip.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #738 on: February 21, 2010, 06:50:56 PM »
Quote from: Engineer on February 21, 2010, 05:17:15 PM
I use aluminum jaws just like that then wedge a piece betwen them raised at the front to take all the "lift" out of the moving jaw, then cut a notch out of the front and rear jaw to hold your material.

Lift? Kurts have the angle lock ball inside. They have almost as much force pushing down on the movable jaw as they do clamping force. They do not lift unless your clamping something thats not parallel.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #739 on: February 22, 2010, 06:42:01 AM »
Quote from: BDKW1 on February 21, 2010, 06:50:56 PM

Lift? Kurts have the angle lock ball inside. They have almost as much force pushing down on the movable jaw as they do clamping force. They do not lift unless your clamping something that's not parallel.

I call BS.   I own Ten Kurt vices nine six inchers and one eight inch been around machining for a long time and ever one of them have some lift.  Don't believe every thing you here. I even have one of the best vice's made a Yuasa and it will lift also.  When your doing close tolerance work .001 to .003 lift is to much.  Yes they have the angle lock ball inside but will still lift before they apply down force.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #740 on: February 22, 2010, 10:16:00 AM »
How often do you take them apart and clean them? If there packed full of chips and the ball is rusted in place your going to have issues. We take them apart and clean/grease them once a week. I have measured ours with zero lift. You have to have the adjusting screw in the back cranked down pretty good too, We torque these to keep everything consistent. We also use torque wrench's on the vice on tight tolerance jobs to keep everything consistent. +-.0005 all day long. Easy money. +-.00002 takes a little more effort.......
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #741 on: February 22, 2010, 10:31:05 AM »
Quote from: BDKW1 on February 22, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
How often do you take them apart and clean them? If there packed full of chips and the ball is rusted in place your going to have issues. We take them apart and clean/grease them once a week. I have measured ours with zero lift. You have to have the adjusting screw in the back cranked down pretty good too, We torque these to keep everything consistent. We also use torque wrench's on the vice on tight tolerance jobs to keep everything consistent. +-.0005 all day long. Easy money. +-.00002 takes a little more effort.......

No Way.  I would have to hire one man just to disassemble and assemble all my vices once a week.   I do do keep my vices clean and greased but you can not run production aircraft work and keep the set screw down tight or you will wear the bed rails out on the vice.  I resurface my vices about every two years also and keep the little rubber orings replaced to.  To keep the set screws down that tight not to get lift your torque wench reading will not be correct.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #742 on: February 22, 2010, 11:28:41 AM »
Seems to be a bit of disagreement . Sort of like asking 3 lawyers a question and getting 4 opinions. LOL!!!!
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #743 on: February 22, 2010, 12:17:08 PM »
Quote from: masterfabr on February 22, 2010, 11:28:41 AM
Seems to be a bit of disagreement . Sort of like asking 3 lawyers a question and getting 4 opinions. LOL!!!!

Ya sorry for the hi jack of your thread. 
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #744 on: February 22, 2010, 12:39:26 PM »
Naw,jack away! I've turned into a machining discussion for now anyway.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #745 on: February 22, 2010, 02:32:30 PM »
I agree with both sides. IMO you are both using each side to the extreme though. Id like to add that Kurts are vey nice vices!
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #746 on: March 21, 2010, 08:23:27 PM »
A few pics of progress made. All parts are now heat treated and installed in case.All that's left to be done now is to make the 2 piece torque tube that surrounds the lovejoy and rigidly aligns/connects the engine adapter th the tranny adapter. That will happen Wednesday when I get my rewound 3 phase coolant pump motor back. More pics later of it completed. I can FINALLY ,at long last FINALLY get the engine mounted and make some serious progress again. DAMN it's been a very very long time coming.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #747 on: March 21, 2010, 08:47:13 PM »
Finally after 50 pages its coming together.  That trans is a lot shorter from the cv to front than I had thought.  So your going to be missing from work next couple weeks to get that thing ready.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #748 on: March 21, 2010, 09:20:29 PM »
Eh???? LOL!!
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #749 on: March 21, 2010, 09:36:09 PM »
Looking real good Fabr! High quality design and machine work!
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