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Title: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 18, 2011, 02:09:44 PM
Here Here all

Last time down at LS I noticed my car wanting to plunge way to fast and rebound even faster.  Figured I would tear down and rebuild my Fox shocks.  Called up Mark at Marks Sand Trans and ordered new lower main springs, went from 275 LB to 350 LB on the main and left the intermediate 175 LB alone. Always was to light on the main. Had to put to much air in the shock to get my ride height up.   Ordered up new valving going from 55/75 55 being compression and 75 being rebound. to 65/90. Here's the deal. I don't think I pored enough oil out of these thing.  Any on know how much oil go's in a Fox 10 inch.  Mark is on turkey day vacation and I need to get this thing back together before I go down next week end. 
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Yummi on November 18, 2011, 02:43:29 PM
Does an inch from the top count as a cc measurement?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkbwZCHPui0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkbwZCHPui0)
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Yummi on November 18, 2011, 02:47:52 PM
If you want a better answer check with

Tyler Scott from GD:

SuspensionTuning@Gmail.com

951/840-0202 KING Shock distributor
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 18, 2011, 03:02:07 PM
Does an inch from the top count as a cc measurement?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkbwZCHPui0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkbwZCHPui0)

I don't know if an inch from the top is right.  I have found a chart on the Fox site that Tell's me 5.4 inch for a 10 inch travel shock EMUL with the .875 shaft.  That is the shocks that I have.  Now is the 5.4 down to the oil from the top of the shock body or is it 5.4 inch of oil in the shock body? 
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Yummi on November 18, 2011, 03:12:48 PM
Crikey - go and get all technical on me.....

Hold on....
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Yummi on November 18, 2011, 03:17:12 PM
http://pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/coilovers/Part_2/#TeardownBleedingCharging (http://pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/coilovers/Part_2/#TeardownBleedingCharging)
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Yummi on November 18, 2011, 03:20:26 PM
Found it!

http://pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/coilovers/Part_2/fox%20-%20EMULSION_REBUILD[1].pdf (http://pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/coilovers/Part_2/fox%20-%20EMULSION_REBUILD)
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 18, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
OK. Thanks Yummi

The 5.40 would be a measure from the open portion of the shock body down to the oil. I found that on Fox's site to.   That is a very good wright up from Pirate4x4.  First one that really explained what was the top of the valve and bottom of the valve.  Fox wanted ten bucks for a tec wright up. 
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 18, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
Now off to Jacksons Motor Sports Monday in Great Bend for some more oil.  I did not have enough. 
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Tylerscott88 on November 18, 2011, 05:22:58 PM
I didn't read the write up on pirate 4x4 but make sure that's for an air shock not an emulsion. Air shocks are greatly effected by oil level.
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fabr on November 18, 2011, 06:06:17 PM
Welcome tyler. Guys,I think we have a great suspension tuning resource in Tyler. Heard nothing but good about his tuning abilities.
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 18, 2011, 08:05:44 PM
I didn't read the write up on pirate 4x4 but make sure that's for an air shock not an emulsion. Air shocks are greatly effected by oil level.

Thanks Tyler.

These are the 10 inch coil over emulsions with the .875 shaft.  I think that could have been some of my problems as to I only drained out about 200 CC and I know filling them back to 5.40 from the open end put a lot more in then that. 
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Tylerscott88 on November 18, 2011, 11:22:06 PM
In that 3rd picture that shows the shaft that looks like an air shock shaft? AbOut 1.25"?
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 19, 2011, 08:52:57 AM
In that 3rd picture that shows the shaft that looks like an air shock shaft? AbOut 1.25"?

Yes the shaft is 1.25 Marks Sand trans the people that sold me the shocks did say they were air shocks but coil over emul.  Are these the one's that only use 260 cc's of oil?
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Tylerscott88 on November 19, 2011, 12:24:24 PM
I'm not exactly sure the amount of oil. I'd call fox directly. These are definatlly different than .875 shaft emulsions. These shocks could hold the car up with out springs but fox made these so you could deal with heat issues. To much oil in an air shock= very very bad things.
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: BDKW1 on November 20, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
Ever think to look on their website?

http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_tech_center/owners_manuals/EMULSION_REBUILD.PDF (http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_tech_center/owners_manuals/EMULSION_REBUILD.PDF)

Oil levels for all shocks on page 2.
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 20, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
Ever think to look on their website?

http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_tech_center/owners_manuals/EMULSION_REBUILD.PDF (http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_tech_center/owners_manuals/EMULSION_REBUILD.PDF)

Oil levels for all shocks on page 2.

That's funny because this site give you 260CC for a 10 inc A/S 1.25.
http://www.offroad-engineering.com/foxshoille.html (http://www.offroad-engineering.com/foxshoille.html)
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: BDKW1 on November 20, 2011, 03:45:13 PM
That's funny because this site give you 260CC for a 10 inc A/S 1.25.
http://www.offroad-engineering.com/foxshoille.html (http://www.offroad-engineering.com/foxshoille.html)

You can probably go 25CC's either way and it won't hurt, just depends on how progressive you want them. That is just the factory starting point.

I have done some where you assymble the shock, bottom it out ,fill with oil then suck out 10CC's.........
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: Tylerscott88 on November 20, 2011, 08:00:49 PM
Well that was easy..
Title: Re: Rebuilding my Fox's
Post by: fastcorvairs on November 21, 2011, 07:46:44 AM
Well that was easy..

That's what I like about this site.  Collective mines tends to get things done.  Two heads always better then one. 
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