Ok Need a little input here to help me out if anyone can a tad. Trying to do this without to much hoopla (Ok thats kinda a joke once you learn more about this but hey!). But open to any ideas.
First off are some typical wheel studs. You all know them Threads and splines and a stop land. The second pic is a stud in a hub. See how its flush? Ever see one stick out each side of a hub?
Anyone know of a stud that is splined to grab the hub but will go with threads in both directions? So it sticks out the front side to grab the tire and the back side too to add something bolt on there? With or without the stop flange?
Now the third, fourth, and fifth pic are an axle I just bought real cheap ($20) with good hubs/bearings but the axle is bent. That does not matter as I need to cut the axle way down short after I clean up the hubs and regrease the bearings.
BUT I would like the studs to stick out the back side of the hubs! As well as the front!
Why you ask? Why indeed. I am going to use this axle on my bender stand as its gotten to heavy for the little cheapo tires I had for it.... (Even with four tires on the one axle they were struggling and its not loaded yet!)
Its also too heavy to push around easy on rough terrain.... (It will not spend its life on concrete all the time) SOOOoooooo I need the bolts to stick out the back side so I can put/mount a sprocket on them. This sprocket will then be driven via chain by a small electric motor to spin the tire on that side hub to help it move the stands weight.
The last four pics show Rick S.'s trailer hub brake disc mod which gave me this idea.
But instead of a brake disc and an ATV wheel I will be making it a with a different wheel (small trailer weight carrying wheel. I got two picked out and just need to figure out which one I will buy) and different offset with my tire than in his pics and with a sprocket to drive the tire instead of a disc brake stopping it.
This sprocket will be driven by wheelchair motors and the wheelchair only does maybe five-six MPH with me in it (or so). I plan to gear it down a lot (guesssing about three to one) as the wheelchair with batteries is heavy and I weight 280 or so but it moves me with ease. But the bender stand is gonna be in the 650 pound range before I am done (no I aint joking... But it will not tip over with a tube hanging off it!!
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So I need a little stoutness in this design for the load but not to worried about the 2-3 mph its gonna cook along at (tiny misalignemn not gonna hurt but I am gonna try to get it straight as possible). I figure if it can withstand brake shock loads on the front of a 700ish pound buggy at speed I should be OK.
Yes I do need this drive to move it. I had it set up like a wheelbarrow (like I originally planned it) and trying to push it up the ramp into my big trailer at just over 600 pounds (Uncomplete and not with all my dies on it so it will weigh more!) like a wheelbarrow was about all I could do. Plus it will be nice as the tires will be enough to carry it outside to bend on nice days when I want to bend taller than my ceiling while in vertical bending mode (It will bend vertically and horizontally for those who do not know)
There are two wheel chair motors so I can steer it too. I got the whole chair to use and its too fun to drive it around! But it must be sacrificed to the God of frivolous bender mods! So each wheel needs to be on its own set of bearings and I cannot just put it all on one solid axle.
If I gotta I will do the same mods as Rick did and buy the bolts like he used and drill them and counter sink the heads.
But I figured if I could just find studs with the proper spline to match the hubs but with thereads in both directions just press them in and bolt it all together so they do not pull out one way or the other! Studs with a flange on one side AND threads would be cool but I may be asking to much.
I have also contemplated just flipping the studs around and pressing them in so they poke out the back and mounting the tire on that side of the hub (Its VERY flat and flat enough easily for 2-3 MPH) and then getting either those coupling nuts and using them to extend threads
OR I have seen nuts with female threads at one end and a male threaded stud sticking out the other end but I do not know what they are called? Anyone know? I got the axle cheap enough I can not use it for this if a better idea comes along. But in a nutshell I need two heavy duty smaller trailer tires (18 inches tall MAX on the rubber and cannot be more than 7 inches wide max rubber width per tire) I can hook drive chains to. Its all gotta fit inside a 26.5 inch wide space and I need room for it to move up and down! So that means I need the room in the middle for the wheel chair drives and a place to hook the air shocks that push the wheels down and lift the bender up!
Good thing I don't ask for much... :P
One other thing I have considered is the older hubs used to use LUGBOLTS instead of studs with lugnuts. The lugbolts hubs were threaded all the way thru (like older beetle VW stuff. Which just gave me a lil idea) and with threads all the way thru the hub I would only need threaded rod to cut to length and spin in to place. Bolt the tire up and add the spacers on the back to hold the sprocket where I need it.
Prob is I cannot find the trailer hubs like that for little trailer wheels that are not old rusted junk that people want two fortunes for! Nor any close to me.
I can and will go with four bolt OR five bolt hubs. Think little tires like a small boat trailer or sled hauling trailer use. This axle I got is off a smaller boat trailer. Thanks for any input and BLESS YOU(!!) if you read all that!
