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Re: Check out this guys work. WOW
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 10:37:07 PM »
I'd bet he is running a pulser....either that or he has the most steady hands I have ever seen.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 11:01:20 PM »
Not to sound like an @$$, but I hope you guys are not too impressed with this novice's work. 

Anybody who welds for a living could tell you that he was using a T.I.G. welder to make those welds.  A professional would also note that those welds though they might look pretty, were garbage. 

Notice he didn't use any filler rod in those welds, he simply flowed over the joints.  They were all undercut terribly bad, and look at how much heat affected area he has on some of his welds.  Not good at all. 

I'd hate to be in that thing when it rolls :-[

Like I said, looks pretty, but to professional it looks pretty $h!tty.  Can anyone help me out on this one.

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Re: Check out this guys work. WOW
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 11:18:02 PM »
I will partially back ya.  He states he used TIG in one of the first posts, and IMO it's fairly obvious anyway.  I looked it over again.  He does have quite a bit of undercut, but I think he was just light on the filler.  There are a few places I see definate evidence of filler.   

This is what I did yesterday,  I was half asleep, but I think it will do.  I should prolly change to a different filler.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 11:24:00 PM »
Garbage may be a bit strong....

Yes Tig, Yes steady hand, Pulser I dunno.

If you will notice he beveled the tubes on the welds where they were straight joints from tube to the joint bracket of the same size.  They were not undercut, and the bevel was full.  So he was using filler on them.

Other places where the tubes teed in he obviousely used filler.

Some of the tubes did have a large heat affected area.  Makes me wonder how thick wall it was.

Overall, I would drive it like I stole it and sleep well.  ;D

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Re: Check out this guys work. WOW
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 11:28:07 PM »
I will partially back ya.  He states he used TIG in one of the first posts, and IMO it's fairly obvious anyway.  I looked it over again.  He does have quite a bit of undercut, but I think he was just light on the filler.  There are a few places I see definate evidence of filler.   

This is what I did yesterday,  I was half asleep, but I think it will do.  I should prolly change to a different filler.

Looks good Boostin!

I have the same trouble being consistent.  One part looks fabulous then it falls apart a bit, then looks great again.

I think RZR man had lots of practice to be so consistent.

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2009, 11:31:29 PM »
That's why I suspect pulser, It helps ya keep the beat.  I also noticed he is doing tubes in two steps, meaning weld one half, reposition, then weld the other.  I usually have to do it in 3 to 4 steps unless it is a sanitary weld, then it is done in one.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 12:19:22 AM »
I will partially back ya.  He states he used TIG in one of the first posts, and IMO it's fairly obvious anyway.  I looked it over again.  He does have quite a bit of undercut, but I think he was just light on the filler.  There are a few places I see definate evidence of filler.   

This is what I did yesterday,  I was half asleep, but I think it will do.  I should prolly change to a different filler.

Boost, thats nice.

I have to run with Eng on this one, all he said was good by me. What I saw was a very detailed job and a steady hand and a very very smooth finish. Yeah Id sleep ok if my head was inside it.

Im no proffesional welder but I think you were a bit harsh Adam. Im impressed and I do like seeing mechanical porn like that... almost got excited there for a minute....

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 01:26:28 AM »
I'm no professional welder either, but I agree that he does nice work and that he could weld up any frame of mine.

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 01:49:06 AM »
Post a few pics of some of your killa welds Adam so we can see how it's done ;)
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Re: Check out this guys work. WOW
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 03:16:30 AM »
I agree it looks pretty too. But I to questioned the lack of or at least the very low use of filler.

I would like to see a few of those welds cut through to see how they really are.

Lets lift it 15-20 feet in the air and drop it on its roof. That should be a good test.

He seems to be going more for looks. His own sig line indicates hes more worried about making dimes in the weld. (Dimes if you don't know are little welds stacked on each other to look like dimes layed out like fallen dominoes) Its not always the strongest weld. I have seen MANY perfect dime welds cracked.

Penetration of the weld then the proper amount of filler THEN worry about trying to get the perfect dimes. Going any other way on welds can bite you in the kiester.   

Thats said I wish my hands were as steady as his. But I feel a little more filler is needed in most places on his joints. (Note I am on dialup and loading was slow due to the amount of pics and I have not looked at them all yet.)

 Still its tig and back when I worked at Quaker Oats at the Gatorade plant we could only tig the metal and the metal all had to be stainless. Was easy to make pretty welds in that. I have never tigged any other material. If I score a good deal on a tig will see. 



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Re: Check out this guys work. WOW
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2009, 04:59:45 AM »
 Use a gas lens,and a thumb button.
Weld the joint with plenty of filler.
Go back over it with no filler pulsing and positioning using the thumb button for heat only.
 If Boostinjdm does this on the weld he posted a pic of it will look just as good.
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Re: Check out this guys work. WOW
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2009, 06:29:06 AM »
Use a gas lens,and a thumb button.
Weld the joint with plenty of filler.
Go back over it with no filler pulsing and positioning using the thumb button for heat only.
 If Boostinjdm does this on the weld he posted a pic of it will look just as good.

   I am not a big fan about going back over the weld to make it look like stacked dime's.  I have seen good welds crack doing that.

Artie check this weld out.  This weld is MiG.  I have watched this guy work and he is and artist's with a MiG.  He works for a buggy shop out of Garden City Kansas called Jackson's Motor Sports.  This one will get you all wet.  I have tried my best to replicate this and can not do it. 

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Re: Check out this guys work. WOW
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 06:53:27 AM »
Not to sound like an @$$, but I hope you guys are not too impressed with this novice's work. 

Anybody who welds for a living could tell you that he was using a T.I.G. welder to make those welds.  A professional would also note that those welds though they might look pretty, were garbage. 

Notice he didn't use any filler rod in those welds, he simply flowed over the joints.  They were all undercut terribly bad, and look at how much heat affected area he has on some of his welds.  Not good at all. 

I'd hate to be in that thing when it rolls :-[

Like I said, looks pretty, but to professional it looks pretty $h!tty.  Can anyone help me out on this one.

~Adam 


I noticed the same things. Glad YOU brought it up so this time I didn't come off as an ass for once. LOL!!!!!!!!!!They are pretty though. Those are GREAT for a show vehicle.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 06:57:00 AM »
I agree it looks pretty too. But I to questioned the lack of or at least the very low use of filler.

I would like to see a few of those welds cut through to see how they really are.

Lets lift it 15-20 feet in the air and drop it on its roof. That should be a good test.

He seems to be going more for looks. His own sig line indicates hes more worried about making dimes in the weld. (Dimes if you don't know are little welds stacked on each other to look like dimes layed out like fallen dominoes) Its not always the strongest weld. I have seen MANY perfect dime welds cracked.

Penetration of the weld then the proper amount of filler THEN worry about trying to get the perfect dimes. Going any other way on welds can bite you in the kiester.  

Thats said I wish my hands were as steady as his. But I feel a little more filler is needed in most places on his joints. (Note I am on dialup and loading was slow due to the amount of pics and I have not looked at them all yet.)

 Still its tig and back when I worked at Quaker Oats at the Gatorade plant we could only tig the metal and the metal all had to be stainless. Was easy to make pretty welds in that. I have never tigged any other material. If I score a good deal on a tig will see. 




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