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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2020, 08:56:17 AM »
well i sent my new r&p so this is the last run on the trans  ;D. when she's done she's a boat anchor.   it will be a joy to drive now.
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2020, 07:16:30 AM »
fabr how is the v8 rail coming along?
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2020, 08:17:19 AM »
Moroso FINALLY got my pump done and back to meThursday.2 damn months to rebuild and add 2 additional scavenge stages for pan vacuum.!  Engine is back in car. Have to install AEM data logger since my FAST Sportsman doesn't have open channels to add anything else to the logging. I want to monitor crankcase vacuum so as to detect detonation OR ring flutter. Just to satisfy my curiousity as to whether detonation is always audible. Anyway,I hope to be ready to schedule dyno in the next couple weeks. Only reason I am going to the dyno is to get a good baseline timing map since I have zero idea what this old Nascar thing wants.  I am assuming that around 26-28 degrees total advance will be all it will want BUT a steady state dyno will be able to determine for sure.
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2020, 05:44:30 AM »
please post up the dyno info once you do. always good info to look at. enemy is supposed to be putting his turbo 2.3 ranger on one. i am awaiting those results as well since our motors are similar.
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2020, 07:19:06 AM »
Wichita Dyno is currently moving their shop so when I can get it scheduled in is a bit up in the air. He said 2-3 weeks out . We'll see.
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2020, 11:17:58 AM »
moving to a diff building or diff city?
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2020, 05:38:26 PM »
Different building.
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2020, 01:29:23 PM »
so my trans is done and on its way back!!   so .....in a nut shell, i have a fully rebhuilt trans   :m    luckily i had a new r&p. rev was worn but not shot so i said replace it anyway.  obviously needed new 1st/2nd ( to convert back to a 4 speed from a 3 speed)  as there a match set. i guess 4th gear hub was gawled and starting to seize. apperantly 2nd ( which would be 3rd in a 4 speed) applied to much side load and cracked 4th slider hub. so now i have weddle racing gears plus they machined the gear carrier housing to use a larger/stronger main shaft bearing.  he had 1 last steel caged pinnion bearing luckily.  recap....new r&p, new 1st/2nd and 3rd/4th and rev, new steel caged pinnion bearing and larger main shaft bearing along with new slider hubs, shift forks etc etc.  that trans lasted 15 years on its opriginal internals. 12 years with a 355 chevy v8 bolted to it and 3 with my 2.3 4 cyl.  i was warned 2nd gear is now weaker then it was as its smaller in a 4 speed. i had it geared down 2nd and 3rd so i can spend most of the runs in 3rd now and sped up 4th gear for more over all speed. i will be turning the turbo down to buy a little more life out of the trans as its a boat anchor when it lets go lol
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2020, 05:15:47 PM »
Cool!!
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2020, 03:57:17 PM »
Good to hear it all went well with the rebuild. should be a lot me enjoyable to drive new.

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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2020, 08:37:05 PM »
i've been told a time or two that i am never happy  ;D....so it damn well better be more enjoyable  LMAO LMAO
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2020, 06:07:28 AM »
 LMAO Speaking of never being happy,I just HAD to reroute my radiator hoses. Just HAD to............. 5:
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2020, 12:59:17 PM »
LMAO Speaking of never being happy,I just HAD to reroute my radiator hoses. Just HAD to............. 5:

i completely understand that  ;D  rofl
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2020, 06:05:36 PM »
And we are all sure you will not be happy with the cylinder head I just delivered for the "plus hp" part of this build!  ;D 
Sorry no dyno report to backup the theoretical, the header is busted clean through on the #1, exact to what the 4 did that he did not weld the inside of the joint. Just went ahead with the full teardown.
For the years of abuse that trans went through I would not be afraid to push the hp a bit 'smartly' if there is such a thing ha! Sweet about the internal mods he did, sad for the boat anchor finally.... that will NEVER happen!!
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Re: 4 speed convert plus hp
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2020, 06:39:55 AM »
carl luck is proof murphy's law is a hoax  rofl rofl
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