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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Toy Showcase => Topic started by: Jet on August 02, 2009, 04:55:20 AM
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Okay, It's finished! Apart from sponsor stickers, everything is done and tested.
The prototype Cush drive system worked well.
Here are some Specs of the finished buggy and some pictures.
Frame- Edge Barracuda with upgraded spec's to suit CAMS racing in Australia.
Engine- 2008 Gen II GSXR1300RR Hayabusa Motor, 200hp at the wheels.
Front suspension- Double A Arm.
Rear suspension, Double A arm with Trailing Links.
Front Wheels: 30x7x15's on Steel Light-weight rims with Inner Tube.
Rear Wheels: 30x9.5x15 on Allumnium rims with Staun Internal Beadlockers.
Front shocks- Fox air 10inch travel Tuned to suit Long course Events,
Rear Shocks- Fox air 12inch travel Tuned to suit long course events.
Driveline- Chain drive with Custom Cush drive system and Electric Reverse.
Front Brakes- 2x Wilwood Dynopro Calipers on 280mm Discs,
Rear brakes- 2x Wilwood Dynolite Calipers on 280mm Dics (Outboard)
Other Specs:
Tilton Master cylinders
Forced Air System for helmet
EDGE quick turn steering rack
collapsible steering system
Beffed up rear lower Suspension Airs and Uprights.
Power mode selection
Gear indicator and shift light
Speedo and Tacho
Split Brake Pedals, Front inline bia's
Plenty more.
Pictures
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Cheers! and thanks to everyone who helped with the Build! The buggy performed Smoothly Today, Not an issue at all :D
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Okay, It's finished! Apart from sponsor stickers, everything is done and tested.
The prototype Cush drive system worked well.
Here are some Specs of the finished buggy and some pictures.
Frame- Edge Barracuda with upgraded spec's to suit CAMS racing in Australia.
Engine- 2008 Gen II GSXR1300RR Hayabusa Motor, 200hp at the wheels.
Front suspension- Double A Arm.
Rear suspension, Double A arm with Trailing Links.
Front Wheels: 30x7x15's on Steel Light-weight rims with Inner Tube.
Rear Wheels: 30x9.5x15 on Allumnium rims with Staun Internal Beadlockers.
Front shocks- Fox air 10inch travel Tuned to suit Long course Events,
Rear Shocks- Fox air 12inch travel Tuned to suit long course events.
Driveline- Chain drive with Custom Cush drive system and Electric Reverse.
Front Brakes- 2x Wilwood Dynopro Calipers on 280mm Discs,
Rear brakes- 2x Wilwood Dynolite Calipers on 280mm Dics (Outboard)
Other Specs:
Tilton Master cylinders
Forced Air System for helmet
EDGE quick turn steering rack
collapsible steering system
Beffed up rear lower Suspension Airs and Uprights.
Power mode selection
Gear indicator and shift light
Speedo and Tacho
Split Brake Pedals, Front inline bia's
Plenty more.
Pictures
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Cheers! and thanks to everyone who helped with the Build! The buggy performed Smoothly Today, Not an issue at all :D
Wow I likey the color Jet. ;D Good looken ride. 200HP and only what 600#'s. 8)
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Looks very nice Phil! Well done, you should be proud of that Mate you've done a great job it's a credit to ya! ;)
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Cheers guys! Yes, about 600.
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WOW! Great looking ride. Good for you!
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VERY well done! The competition should be GREEN with envy. ;D
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Uber cool Jet. EASILY the best cuda to date.
I don't want to start a shit fight: how did you work out your trailing links (c'mon, you knew that was coming ;D) as they don't seem to attach at the points Camel illustrated.
Cheers!
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Fooks sake Jet, if you're gonna take pretty action pictures, at least give it some gas... ;)
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Haha Sorry to break it to you chris, but those pictures are actually of my younger sister driving with the power in "C" mode ;D
Trojan, With my engineering knowledge, It's not ground breaking, just a large 3D trigonometry problem :o
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Hmmm
Excellent job mate. You racing at Mogumber? I'm heading out to have a look.
to think, I started the same day Jet did. And all I've got to show for it is some bent tube and scattered parts!
Camel
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Awesome.
I was sitting here for a moment thinking. Do all these guys in Australia have the same dash configuration or what. Then I realized it was the same car. lol
Chris
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600# ?? I would question that, sorry but that does seem a bit off. Looks great Jet, So whats next?
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Doug,
that would be 600 kilograms.
These younger Aussies wouldn't realise that the hash symbol (#) is used in the US (and was once used here) to indicate 'pounds'.
A Cuda weighing 600 pounds would be nice.....
BTW, anyone know what CWT actually means? Seriously, the '#' symbol was fairly common, and I recall the abbreviation 'cwt' but don't know what it actually expands to. I have to move my lathe and the documentation says it weighs 80 cwt.
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cwt = hundred weight.
one cwt = one hundred something. I think it's pounds. My old man told me he used to drive around in a nine cwt Morris van for the company he worked for in England.
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Haha, Not 600 pounds, That wouldn't last any race :D
Yes Camel, racing mugumber, haha yeh, get on with it! less research more progress, you can always change things after you build it!
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Prototype cush drive???
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Trojan, With my engineering knowledge, It's not ground breaking, just a large 3D trigonometry problem :o
;D
Is that Sandgroper for "someone else did it" :P
C'mon cough up.
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Yes Camel, racing mugumber, haha yeh, get on with it! less research more progress, you can always change things after you build it!
Research is all I can do when not at home.......
Got a 6 tonne hiab coming 'round to Digrite 9:30am Wednesday morning to pick up the lathe and shaper. Let the machining begin!
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Is that Sandgroper for "someone else did it" :P
C'mon cough up.
Being a banana bender, but having married a sandgroper and created another four, I think I'm somewhat offended by that statement!
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Yes Camel let the machining begin, I can't wait to see what you come up with. ;D Any ideas when ya gonna make a start? I love the build logs... ::)
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Haha that sounds like fun Mr camel :O
Trojan, why can't you believe it? It's really not that hard! :o
Yes, a prototype cush drive system, helps take the loads off the gearbox.
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Would the cush drive help eliminate shearing off every single bolt holding the sprocket to the central drive hub? Im begining to think that the flat head bolts cant take the load. I sheared them all off this past weekend. I had an extra central drive unit so all it took was 2 hours of repair work. ::)
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I don't know what his drive is like but IMO YESit should help prevent shearing.
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Would the cush drive help eliminate shearing off every single bolt holding the sprocket to the central drive hub? Im begining to think that the flat head bolts cant take the load. I sheared them all off this past weekend. I had an extra central drive unit so all it took was 2 hours of repair work. ::)
What grade bolts are you using Doug?
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These were the Grade 8 M10X1.25 Flat Head socket caps. I opted for the finer thread for larger root diameter to avoid this. Tha bolts were locktight in. The sprocket must see more load than the CVs or any other component in the drive as there is only the one sprocket. After that the load spreads into two, Left drive and right drive line. Makes sence to me. Im debating on increasing the diameter of the bolt pattern and goint to an 8 bolt pattern on the sprocket side of the drive hub in the Drive unit.
I should also note that the bolts I run here are about $5 - $6 ea.
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Would it be possible to get some better pictures of your rear lower A-arms?
I really like the "splatter guard" you put over the rear chain. I'm going out to make one now !
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Doug, I've never had an issue with shearing those bolts. you shouldn't be using grade 8, you should be using 12.9, that's what the plans call for...
This cush drive prototype was developed with EDGE and if it works well we might be seeing one from edge in the future.
Here are the A Arms
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Grade 12.9???? Is that a metric equilivant spec? Grade 8 is pretty damn strong from what Im told. Well maybe Ill need to make my own from some 4350 HT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3xBbmKPfpk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3xBbmKPfpk)
This is a cut down lap from Hyden Humps 2009, I have the full lap (21minutes or something).
Sound isn't very good, but you can hear the motor fine, so i decided to leave it and not cover it up with music.
Hyden Humps is a Western Australian Round of Offload Racing. It's Brother Race, Hyden450, Is held at Easter time and is the first of the national Round's in Australia.
Cheers
Phil
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Damn Phil you were move'n there, looks good Mate! The machine seemed to handle it well. Who had the fastest time? There'd be different classes yeah? Were you the fastest in your class? Apart from that, it's a credit to ya Bud, you've done a great job, you should be proud!! ;) Good on ya!!! Also I noticed ya arms were fairly move'n too! Is it a bit of a job ta keep it in a straight line? ;D
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hey jet, what fly wheel and starter are you using for your reverse? and does it work good? maybe a video?
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Massive job to keep it straight!
It's a Custom made Disc and the starter motor is out of a common Rice burner.
It get's the job done!
Cheers
Phil
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Did you laser cut the disk or machine it? What do you mean massive job to keep it straight?
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Lasercut then hardened.
It's hard to put your foot right down and keep the buggy pointing straight, the rear wheel's like overtaking the front wheels quiet frequently :o
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Was that one ya sold Artie hardened too?
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Lasercut then hardened.
It's hard to put your foot right down and keep the buggy pointing straight, the rear wheel's like overtaking the front wheels quiet frequently :o
Is your suspension square with the frame? If it's even a tiny bit off it will make the car try to swap ends .
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Is your suspension square with the frame? If it's even a tiny bit off it will make the car try to swap ends .
Have you had it four wheel aligned Jet?
How's your weight distribution? If you've got significantly more weight over one of the rear wheels, that one will grip better than the other and try to turn you around...
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Tire pressure, especially atv type tires running low PSI, you can turn circles.
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No it wasn't, but dont worry, it doesnt really need it.
Yes everything is square, and yes the wheels are aligned etc, the wheel pressure is interesting tho?
I just wheel spin alot, it doesn't literally try to overtake on a straight line, but going 160+ km/h it moves around a little bit.
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I guess if you're doing a dollar sixty and the tyres are doing two hundred bucks plus, the back end will tend to follow the contours of the terrain you're on...
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That is one sick video! That looks like a hell of a narrow track! I didn't realize the cuda was that squirley, but it makes sense with the HP you are running. BTW, I have watched your brookton video about 100 times! Sweet cuda!