I was at my father in laws' friends house last weekend. He had a oxyacetylene torch so he let me cut out a piece I needed for my pedestal. My F-in-L says, "you need a cutting torch?" I say, "I'd love to have one." He says, "I got one in the shed that I haven't used in years. I'll get the bottles filled and you can have it." BAM! I paid him $70 for the bottles to be filled and I pick it up next week! Generous man, my F-in-L!