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Title: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 26, 2015, 05:06:10 PM
i just changed all the injector cups in my 7.3 diesel and noticed a few things on the injectors so i made a vid and posted on a diesel forum but thought i would share what the injectors look like in my truck. uploaded in hd and only took 5 hrs lol for 4 min's!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mmC5YypQ2s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mmC5YypQ2s)
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: BDKW1 on May 26, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
So how many mile are on it now?

Any mods? Tuner? Exhaust?

How much of a bitch were they to pull and how long did it take you?

I'm hoping I don't have to touch My 2000 for a long time........
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Yummi on May 26, 2015, 07:35:41 PM
Can't help with the thing that goes vroom, but I do know where you can get a razor.    LMAO


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Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 26, 2015, 08:15:43 PM
So how many mile are on it now?

Any mods? Tuner? Exhaust?

How much of a bitch were they to pull and how long did it take you?

I'm hoping I don't have to touch My 2000 for a long time........
bought it with 81k and just turned 94k actually. early 99 6 speed manual ext cab dually. 4" dp 4" straight back with high flow muffler which only helps at idle, dp tuner but only pull in 80 tow mode, egt's have never exceeded 1250* and even then only at the last 1/2 mile of a good hill climb ( my idea of a hill not carls  rofl) which with my th'er with rail and cargo about 11k lbs usually 24psi boost to 26 for the worst hill on I70 west of salina. other than those moments 1150 to 800 14 psi and under. motocraft oil every 3500 miles with rev x additive in oil and fuel along with new motorcraft fuel filter. also changed out the factory comp wheel to the ww gen2 billet wheel  and riff raff fuel cross over to horse shoe the fuel rail with slightly higher fuel psi at 68 psi as of right now. i have the early 99 so i have the solid aluminum innercooler where late and up i believe late and up all got  the ones with plastic tanks. the fuel fx kit made a noticeable diff in idle smoother and quieter audibly. stock .84 turbine housing with turbo sock. up pipes are wrapped as well. i have an 80 econo mode but stock mode gets better mpg's so i leave it stock when empty. this problem isn't common but not rare and no rhime or reason for them to crack.  luck of the draw i guess and on a side not i was online looking for tq specs and read a nice write up on powerstroke nation about re tq'ing the rocker arm hold down bolts while your in there cause they do losen up. 4 out of 8 cyl's were 1/2 to 3/4 turn from 240 inch lbs or 20 ft lbs. so glad i checked! you know i prob took more apart than needed but started at noon and gave up an hour after the video to up load the video lol prob 7 pm but i spent a couple hours pulling my exh because the dp has been rubbing on my man trans where the starter bolts up so i took a ball peen hammer and massaged some clearance lol.  i really didn't keep track and was in no hurry and spent some time cleaning the inj's up before i put them back in that day. the tool i bought actually made it easy to pull them out and put them back in but not something i would want to do again lol  the glow plugs have 10 k miles on them but i am replacing them again with motor craft of course. the o rings were def done on 4 out of 8 and questionable on 2 others now from what i read ( that's all i can say at this point) the original o rings were not made for low sulfur diesel so the lower is more prone to break down faster. the new replacement alliant power ones are way diff colors and changed in size on the middle and lower o rings. one common sign of the lowers going out but takes about 4 or more it seems is signs of oil in the fuel filter in the form of darker fuel or a dark colored fuel filter. that is what i read but i can visually see the diff in the new style o rings. stage II cold air intake as well with dry filter with pre filter.
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 26, 2015, 08:17:42 PM
yummi long weekend so no shaving for me, 4 day shadow and it's full of grey these days lol  hey but thanks for the link is that were you buy yours? i pre fer straight razor cause they have dual purposes lol lol
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Yummi on May 26, 2015, 09:03:13 PM
No, still get em at wally world.  I am just as guilty (and just as grey) on the long weekends.   

(They are afraid I will hurt myself with a straight blade, but cool fun fact.  I have my dad's old straight edge. )
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 26, 2015, 09:05:47 PM
I haven't fully shaved in let's seeeeeee,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yup,40 years now.
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: BDKW1 on May 26, 2015, 09:20:39 PM
the worst hill on I70 west of salina.

Hills? on I70?  rofl

Those are mere mounds. Try towing 21K goose through Colorado. Over a 10.5K pass.......... Power was not an issue, brakes were.

Only 94K? Your scaring Me.

Ex-cab, LB, 2WD, 6 speed. Has a tuner (forget the brand) running in tow mode. Has different exhaust wheel, I think WW2 (was on it when I bought it), 4" turbo back magnaflow. Will hit 25PSI pretty easy unloaded in tow mode. Was in sport mode when I bought it, couldn't shift fast enough to keep up. Useless. 188K

I shave about twice a year..........
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 26, 2015, 10:14:00 PM
I haven't fully shaved in let's seeeeeee,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yup,40 years now.

lol wouldn't have guessed it lol  wish i could but can't stand after a week or so myself
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 26, 2015, 10:23:49 PM
Hills? on I70?  rofl

Those are mere mounds. Try towing 21K goose through Colorado. Over a 10.5K pass.......... Power was not an issue, brakes were.

Only 94K? Your scaring Me.

Ex-cab, LB, 2WD, 6 speed. Has a tuner (forget the brand) running in tow mode. Has different exhaust wheel, I think WW2 (was on it when I bought it), 4" turbo back magnaflow. Will hit 25PSI pretty easy unloaded in tow mode. Was in sport mode when I bought it, couldn't shift fast enough to keep up. Useless. 188K

I shave about twice a year..........

couldn't remember for sure so i just went and looked ....98905 on the clock! i put a few more on this year i guess.....since yours is the 2000 you could have the ww wheel or ww2 if it's an aluminum one. 21k thru the mtn's lol no thanks i live the flat lands compared to many states lol those hills on I70 are enough when pulling a parachute lol mine was bone stock when i got it from original owner and he put a k&n air filter in the stock box and never cleaned it and i mean you should've seen it i would never have guessed they could get that dirty!  i have a 100 hp tow mode and only tried it 2 times....hits 32 psi in 6th gear real easy empty wot so don't need that and towing the camper i switched it on while running down the interstate at 75 mph and it raises my egts 100* so 80hp it is cause the truck has always been happy there. mine is a 99 6 speed dually long quad 4x4 and wasn't easy to find. found it in lee summit missiouri, owner was too old to drive anymore. with the mods the best i get empty on I80 at 75 or 80 mph is 18mpg and on a good day towing the th'er 9! that one hurts a bit but it doesn't lose speed and i can set the cruise at 75 w/o concern well under 50 mph cross wind lol i have stock ab injecors but enemy has an adrenaline hpop and d66 turbo along with stage 1 inj's and a few more mods lol
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 26, 2015, 10:25:13 PM
and on another note ....never eat a med pizza and then work on a top side creeper  LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO  :-X :-X
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Carlriddle on May 27, 2015, 05:42:00 AM
I did quit a bit of reading about orings and gaskets that were used pre low sulphur diesel.  Many needed the lube of the sulphur to keep them from drying out.  No diff than e85 in standard gas setup.  Might be fine, may last for yrs, may leak tomm.

Hey at least you stayed away from gas station burritos, Dunebound woulda thought there were aftershocks!   rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 27, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
Hills? on I70?  rofl

Those are mere mounds. Try towing 21K goose through Colorado. Over a 10.5K pass.......... Power was not an issue, brakes were.

Only 94K? Your scaring Me.

Ex-cab, LB, 2WD, 6 speed. Has a tuner (forget the brand) running in tow mode. Has different exhaust wheel, I think WW2 (was on it when I bought it), 4" turbo back magnaflow. Will hit 25PSI pretty easy unloaded in tow mode. Was in sport mode when I bought it, couldn't shift fast enough to keep up. Useless. 188K

I shave about twice a year..........
Good man!!!!!
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 27, 2015, 06:52:00 AM
lol wouldn't have guessed it lol  wish i could but can't stand after a week or so myself
Takes a real man to make it past the irritating part. I'm just a pussy so once I made it past that first week I never shaved again.  rofl rofl
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 27, 2015, 06:56:34 AM
Back on  subject,I love my Dmax. So far,3 of them and I never had to get a wrench out. The stupid fooking DEF system on the '11 is a different story though. I hear the DEF will be gone soon tho. Hope so,I need a new truck........................
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Yummi on May 27, 2015, 09:16:32 AM
Back on  subject,I love my Dmax. So far,3 of them and I never had to get a wrench out. The stupid fooking DEF system on the '11 is a different story though. I hear the DEF will be gone soon tho. Hope so,I need a new truck........................

My experience with DPF destroyed my love affair with the diesels.  Perfectly good execution and somebody has to go screw it all up lowering mileage, power and reliability in the process.   
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 27, 2015, 10:51:13 AM
My experience is the DEF pump fails or the NOX sensor dies.
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Yummi on May 27, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
My experience is the DEF pump fails or the NOX sensor dies.

My experience was stuck on the side of the road twice.  Clogged DPF.  My concurrent half of the same events was looking at the "warranty invoice" each time over $2,100.00.  Not so much.  Offed it 1,000 miles over warranty. 
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 27, 2015, 11:30:01 AM
You should have had symptoms long before the filter plugged.
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 27, 2015, 11:43:58 AM
well this is the first time i have HAD to put a wrench on the engine. i did so before because i was adding or altering. it is a 99 after all lol actually mine was made 11/98 to be exact
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 27, 2015, 12:39:13 PM
The whole problem was the FORD written all over it.  ;) ;) ;D ;D Just kidding.
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Yummi on May 27, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
You should have had symptoms long before the filter plugged.

The symptom was it stopped.  Nothing else.  This was before the Ura deal.  the Urea seems like a PITA.  Sounds like they will be stopping that? 


A 98 with no work?  That is a good run.  Set of injectors at the end of 17 years?  I could live with that.
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 27, 2015, 04:05:43 PM
It should have been way,way down on power for quite a while. 
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 27, 2015, 05:16:06 PM
The whole problem was the FORD written all over it.  ;) ;) ;D ;D Just kidding.
FORD huh  bs1 kick kick nono nono rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl   that's the only reason it lasted 17 years w/o wrenching on it lol   yummi i did not install a new set of injectors i just changed the o rings on them they actually passed a buzz test and have had no power issues just a  few little funny issues that only I would notice lol so i bet this takes care of them. i have been impressed with the truck thus far  with everything other than the mpg's when towing my th'er but then i again i set the cruise at 75mph. i have never thought 18 mpg unloaded for a dually is bad imo. i did have a clutch put in it when i bought it because i didn't know the po's driving habbits and didn't want to get two states out and have it give up. at 81k it still had over a 1/4 of it's life left but i felt $1600 was worth the peace of mind and they changed the oil in the trans tranfer and front and rear diff's, i suppose i'll put u joints in it this summer to be safe too. the po did have some warranty work done at ford but they fell short or changed stuff that wasn't the problem lol
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Yummi on May 27, 2015, 08:59:38 PM
It should have been way,way down on power for quite a while.

Yes, and it should have gone into regen mode.  It should have gone into limp mode.  Heck even a courtesy dash light would have been a nice touch.  It should have done a whole bunch of stuff. 

What it did was die.  Like Grandma, and my favorite gold fish in the fourth grade, but granny did not expire on the freeway in the fast lane and the gold fish could be replaced with just one ping pong ball placed into a dish from some dude with serious dental challenges.  Holy run on sentence. 

You know it is bad when you grammar cop yourself.   
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Carlriddle on May 28, 2015, 05:41:14 AM
Yes, and it should have gone into regen mode.  It should have gone into limp mode.  Heck even a courtesy dash light would have been a nice touch.  It should have done a whole bunch of stuff. 

What it did was die.  Like Grandma, and my favorite gold fish in the fourth grade, but granny did not expire on the freeway in the fast lane and the gold fish could be replaced with just one ping pong ball placed into a dish from some dude with serious dental challenges.  Holy run on sentence. 

You know it is bad when you grammar cop yourself.  

 :'( :'( :'( HUG
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: fabr on May 28, 2015, 05:57:49 AM
Yummi,the point is that DPF's do not just suddenly plug and cause an engine to die. Regardless,the dealer "fixed" you plugged DPF under warranty and the dealer got warranty paid to do it. I'm betting it was not the DPF but something much cheaper/simpler/paid dealer less. Plenty of that crap goes on.  I had a similar situation with one of my Isuzu delivery trucks just out of warranty. Over 2500 bux of exhaust components later I found a missing vacumn port cap when it came back running like shit.Let's see,25 cents or 2500.00 bux from OEM.Wonder what incentive the dealer had to find the missing cap?
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 28, 2015, 06:15:29 AM
not just an incentive thing it was prob more likely the new guys got put on it lol the old timers with the actuall experience at the dealers take all the easy good paying jobs and push all the rest on the newbies who are fresh out of school this is what makes those trips to the dealership such a joke.  i can see them doing as you said but bottom line they are just there to get you out of warranty!
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 28, 2015, 06:18:49 AM
I did quit a bit of reading about orings and gaskets that were used pre low sulphur diesel.  Many needed the lube of the sulphur to keep them from drying out.  No diff than e85 in standard gas setup.  Might be fine, may last for yrs, may leak tomm.

Hey at least you stayed away from gas station burritos, Dunebound woulda thought there were aftershocks!   rofl rofl rofl

 rofl i didn't see that dunebound is worse than me  rofl rofl
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Yummi on May 28, 2015, 06:49:06 AM
:'( :'( :'( HUG

Thanks. 
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Dunebound69 on May 28, 2015, 06:20:32 PM
How did I get drug into this!?

I did quit a bit of reading about orings and gaskets that were used pre low sulphur diesel.  Many needed the lube of the sulphur to keep them from drying out.  No diff than e85 in standard gas setup.  Might be fine, may last for yrs, may leak tomm.

Hey at least you stayed away from gas station burritos, Dunebound woulda thought there were aftershocks!   rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Dunebound69 on May 28, 2015, 06:26:05 PM
I don't think anyone can be worse than you DS!
 Mr. 30 minute food renter! :c :c :c

rofl i didn't see that dunebound is worse than me  rofl rofl
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 28, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
How did I get drug into this!?

easy target  LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 31, 2015, 11:52:07 AM
well i zipped it up and fired it off last night and took it for a ride to get the oil galleries bled. runs good, i still have to finish flushing the coolant system. i have some liquid dawn and water in there right now to clean it as good as possible. found two bad sway bar link bushings while i was under it so good there to now lol i should've had it done some time ago but i farted around cleaning up this and that and took my time since i have other cars to drive.
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Carlriddle on May 31, 2015, 02:56:02 PM
Since thur done can you bring that over the engine creeper over?  I need to use in a few weeks, it be a good test drive! 
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 31, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Since thur done can you bring that over the engine creeper over?  I need to use in a few weeks, it be a good test drive!

top side creeper and i'll get right on it  rofl
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: dsrace on May 31, 2015, 08:51:34 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foldable-TopSide-Creeper-RLP3-100-TRX3-100-Above-Car-Truck-Traxion-REL-Products-/181744772995?hash=item2a50d52783&item=181744772995&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foldable-TopSide-Creeper-RLP3-100-TRX3-100-Above-Car-Truck-Traxion-REL-Products-/181744772995?hash=item2a50d52783&item=181744772995&vxp=mtr)

this is the one i bought    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Traxion-Pro-Topside-Overhead-Creeper-3-700-/191568498966?hash=item2c9a5f5116&item=191568498966&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: not a buggy but still an engine lol
Post by: Dunebound69 on June 06, 2015, 04:08:31 PM
I dont think I would want to be around when DS is on that thing 10: 10: 10: He is always locked and loaded!
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