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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Member Project Logs => Topic started by: SPEC on March 12, 2009, 11:48:44 AM
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I'm posting these pics for a couple of member's who were asking about my convertable rear suspension...I'll post up the pix...BTW this buggy is for sale parts or as it sits
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Do over?
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I better quit telling guys how to post pix till I get it right myself ;D
Naw I was just messin with ya...I didn't have the time to post...hadda pic up some food for the big hungry
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Here's the pix ;D
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Nobodies going to point out the lack of triangulation?
Here's some of the front suspension travel
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Mate... I'm still trying to get over those ketamine green wheels!
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I got black paddles on it now ii:
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I thought the green tires were because you are the "pickle man".
Why you not gonna finish?
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Ya they were...I was gonna paint the chassis black with green components ;D
I just love those green tires b:1 10: jj: mm:
I prolly won't be finishing it cuz I can't get in or out of it without help,
I like to ride alone...
I want to build a long travel crawler like Baloo's buddy only no in thru the top...With reverse, E-start, And a higher cockpit, the 750 was/is a go fast no frills unit desined only to haul some serious ass thru the woods, comfort was not really an issue 80 to 90mph speeds down tight trails was ;D and to be reliable ;D
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I understand. :(
I do like the Baloo idea, thinking Suz sammari, or old jeep axles to keep narrow for the woods.
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woe thems bright tyres them is, do they come with sun gasses, why they so greeeen ? are they for tree huggers or sumate,
so you want a crawler like marks but with a door then, me too, l was thinking about having my roll cage full width so as to have more room in the cab, might even sqeeze an occasional seat on top of the subaru engine since its so low, its got to be suzuki sammy axles unless you can find some that are lighter ?
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The sammi are very popular here for a cheapo rock crawler.
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could you explain how the drive system on the rear end is made or what would a person need to gather to recreate such a SPECimen as that thar rear end ? hows she built ? 8)
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Spec has done quite a few of the swingarm buggies.I'm betting he'll let you in on the details.
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Buginator,
The cantalevered control arms will work as a swing arm, tyieng the 2 arms together, with a chain down each leg for long travel INDY...Since I only use sled power I run a jackshaft in front of the motor and an inboard brake,
In the 1st pic if you remove the crossbar, it will go indy with 2 chains, so 18'' of travel in a car that is however wide you want it to be is easy. I prefer a swing arm, I like a flat cornering car...The drive is really quite simple, Extra long jackshaft keyed or splined on both ends with a couple of collars to hold the secondary clutch in place and walla...
Next pics show how I do it as a swing arm
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i went to the other machine shop and checked out that 750.. that suspension is definitely a work of art...
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Sweddy is too kind ;D
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I notice the square ends on the rear axle. Is that just a 1 1/4 (just an example) axle with the ends ground down and then you make your drive hubs with square stock 3/16 thick or something similar ? I noticed in your 460 log how you made the drive hubs for going on the axle but am wondering what the axle is. I've looked around for that style axle and ain't seein too much.
That's one wild looking rear end Pickleman! other thing is the two shock technique. You had the same set up on your other buggy. kind of like a dual rate set up or ? Thanks for any info ;D
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Ya, you prolly haven't seen too many axles like mine ;D I'm the only one building them that I know of
I build the axles in-house...
The axles start out as 7 seperate peices,Tool steel liner, An inner sleeve, Drive flange(that's the part that drives the hubs), then an outer sleeve that the sprocket carrier is welded to, then the retaining nuts for the hubs... The axles are fairly strong, not indestuctable I have managed to break and bend afew...But I drive the buggies like I stole them, The Hubs on the other hand are pretty much Indesrtructable...1/4'' Boilerplate, Mumbler trues the 1/4'' collar so it's 90* on both ends, CNCs the mating surface so it's all nice flat, true, and punch the bolt pattern, before I weld them up...Since most of my stuff turns left(roudy round) I put 4 gussets on the right drive hub and only 3 on the left,,,Then I have Mumbler Turn them in the lathe to check bolt holes and run-out for the wheel mounting surface...
I don't harden them so they can flex...We have hardened them in the past, but then you get little or no warning when the axle is going to break...Plus if you get a small tweek in it ...It can be heated and straightened
Dual shocks can be a pain in the ass...
I like dual shocks fo several reasons
1) I can tailor spring rates for ride height,sag and compression(not really compression but ride feel)
2) I have tons of coil over shocks and springs laying around
3) I can mout dual coil overs inboard and cantaleverd and go way over the ''acceptable ratio'' of shock placement, and not have ungodly pressure on the individual shock
4) with a little thought and some foresite you can get some big travel numbers out of an inexpensive shock
5) They look cool ;D,,,,And they run cooler than 1 shock doing all the work, because they only move a fraction of what a long travel outboard shock does...So less shock fade
You could take this one off my hands ;D
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so your axles are like your pickles, home made and pretty much gonna stay that way. It keeps 'em special !
;D mm: mm: ;D
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Yup
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My philosophy is this
If it works...and works well
DON'T FOOK WITH IT !!!!!
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Before this bad girl goes under the knife I'll do a quick write up and phot shoot like I did the specinator's...
Rumor has it that The 460's are making a comeback, I'll be working with some members here on water jet parts and some g-code stuff so I'm off to Mumbler's to get him in gear righting the stuff...
Trojan open up some time on your calender...And prolly Yummi too :o ::) ;D
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Huh??? What you doin now?
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I took a trip out to "The landing" today...
Rode around for 45 minutes in the S-10...a trip that I do in the buggy in less than 10...I'm going to whack up both 750's, and put together some of my old school buggies with the upgraded parts that I build now...See if we can get something going up this way for a low budget racing league, I don't have the room to keep them around...and can't even get a ridiculously low price for them... so they're iron except what I can salvage in parts :o
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I don't have the room to keep them around...and can't even get a ridiculously low price for them... so they're iron except what I can salvage in parts :o
Thats sadly true, one mans passion is anothers poison. Eventually you would sell them, patience and time, and marketing them in the right places (this ones good!).
And mate, ANYTHING will sell with green tyres on it (NOT!)....... :-\ :-*
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Here's the end to the 750 :-[
I had a scammer from CL e-mail me to deliver it and get paid when it gets there....Here's what I'm delivering to anoka scrap yard today
The rest of the parts...short of what I'm shipping to a member here are going on flea-pay next week :-[
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Spec is that a polaris triple snowmobile engine? Does it run?
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of course it runs
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I sent a copy of these pix to the fooker yesterday...
I wonder why he hasn't responded? rofl
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found spec's old buggy.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/rvs/2206282949.html (http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/rvs/2206282949.html)
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Ya know Wyatt you do shit like that... and you wonder why you get hammered on