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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV General Discussion => Topic started by: SPEC on November 05, 2008, 01:09:36 PM
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I've been playing in the dirt and woods for a long time I have made some good tire choices and some bad tire choices..This thread is just my opinion on different tires that I have used, What my likes and dislikes were, I think alot of the guys here use tires much larger than I do but here goes
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I'm an idiot...this needs to go to msp
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I've been playing in the dirt and woods for a long time I have made some good tire choices and some bad tire choices..This thread is just my opinion on different tires that I have used, What my likes and dislikes were, I think alot of the guys here use tires much larger than I do but here goes
SPEC you cannot go wrong with those glow in the dark green ones. 3: ;D ;D
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Ya I Had a 96 XCR polaris I stripped it down to the tunnel and bulk head and painted it all white and had the seat upolstered in white when I was going across feilds it looked like I was floating at 100 mph. ;D
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I guess I'll start with my favorite ICE combo, These are 18.5'' holeshots with 1500 studs for the rear The fronts are 19''razors with 330 studs in each...
I like this combo better than running an Knobby front since these keep more weight per stud on the ice, and the 460's don't have front brakes
The rear Holeshots are 6 ply, with carpet and a tubes, the carpet lines the tire to protect the tube...(the carpet and inner tube came after tearing some of the studs out). On the fronts I use SLIME to keep air in them...You want an intermediately hard tire...Too hard and the studs will just tear out ...too soft and the studs will and I mean will tear the tire to shredds...One more thing ALWAYS bake the studs in the oven before screwing them into the tires...If you don't the lube they put on them at the factory will allow them to ''walk'' out (you have to check them on a regular basis any way)The studs I use are 5/8'' kold cutters, they are a directional stud with 2 cutting edges...On the fronts I point them latterally The edges going from front to rear, and the rears They just come out random, most of the time, You want some to control the slide and some for foreward bite...
I dunno if this helped anybody but it was fun to write :-%
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One more thing when storing them ALWAYS wrap them in duct tape It will save you from having hundreds of little cuts on your hands and arms from handling them...
One more thing to keep in mind when dealing with studded machines is to keep a shitty piece of carpet on the garage floor to protect the floor and your studs
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The next choice of tires I have is the aerostar sand tires, 22 x 11 x 8'', with 8 paddles..I picked these up for the trip to LS and Syrahole,
I had some others in the past, but there isn't much sand here in minnesota, and always some hard pack between here and there, so I went with these because of the blocks on the paddles,They seemed to work well in the dusty sand of syrahole, they never made it to LS...The CDI box went out right after I changed over to the paddles So they never got a good testing out with the motor never pulling over 4200 rpm...It's clutched at 3800 :'( But I think I'll put them in the classifed's
I had some scat trac ''V'' blades for left and right they seemed to work Ok, in the snow. I have never tried the aerostars in the snow yet
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This next set is what IMHO are prolly the the best all around oval track tires for the 460's
Chen shin ICE tires they are really soft, and wear fairly fast but are sticky and give a good side bite for predictable slides, and awesome foreward bite in loose to semi sticky track conditionsm when the track gets some rubber laid down I switch to a different tire for the rear (more on that later)
The fronts are FRONT MAX I really like them...Actually they are my very favorite front tire for all occasions, They steer exellent are fairly puncture proof, hold studs well, and are pretty light... The tread blocks offer good turning, and self clean well, I think they are a way better tire than the Dunlops on the front of specinator's buggy...They turn OK but I'll get some pix on them later as well
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Studs?
Ice?
Wtf?
Are you shirtin me?
You got ice to drive on?
Where did you get that from dude?
Aint that a little cold kinda?
Dont ya wanna stay indoors and hold the Specinators hand on days like that?
You could buy her some flowers and whisper sweet nothings in her ear, and then maybe, just maybe she might let you... do the dishes or sweep the floor (if shes feelin in a good mood that is)
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You could buy her some flowers and whisper sweet nothings in her ear, and then maybe, just maybe she might let you... do the dishes or sweep the floor (if shes feelin in a good mood that is)
:u
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EFFEN A Artie you crack me up... ;D
The lakes here are already skimming over...We have what alot of people call ''shanty towns out on the frozen lakes...alot of guy's don't go home for days at a time...they live in they're ice shacks...
Carl...
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Mate its 92 deg here (your measurement) and your talkin ice?
For fug sake I see ice often! it clinks when I lift my glass............
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what they doin out on the frozen lakes?
Isnt that a little boring?
I mean whats to do?
Isnt it dangerous?
Wont they fall through?
Are they stoopid?
I guess I just dont get it........
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Morons go ice fishing.Go figure.LOL!!!!
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How do you catch ice?
What bait do they use?
How do you cook ice when you catch it?
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mmm... another question,
These afore said "shacks", now I am theorising that the ice on top of the lake will eventually melt, right?
dont they realise that their home insurance policy would cost less if they didnt have to claim each and every year?
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OOOOHHHH MMMMMMMYYYYYYY,
I'll have to answer these questions in the mornining with pix and explanations...up here an ICE house is a man's real castle with satalite dish...keg/co-2 tank...hot tub and sled/buggy....and hookers ;D
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We even have POWER ICE AUGERS...pix tomarrow...Rattle reels and such in the vip room
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My wife wants me to get a rattle on my reel!!!!!!!!!! :'( :m Artie You are funny as hell. ;D
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Dent,
I don't think wifey wants a rattle on your reel I think she wants a flag on your TIP UP ;D
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Just a typical winter morning in Minnesota
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You have snow already?
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Naw that was last year altho we got about 3 inches yesterday but it melted into a soupy mess :o
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I been alot slow on the pix but been effed up :-[
Here's an example of light fishing gear up here, I like to fish...Well I don't like fishing I like catching...So I got rid of all my big tackle I used to love muskey fishing...to much for me now...so I pick on pan fish mostly ;D
and the fyishun powels fer mydguts...and Fabr's favorite...My custom built ''dadden' baskets''
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PIX
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We have snow over here, just enuff to color the ground white and kill people on overpasses.. Been cold as hell for the last week or so, No warm up in sight...
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Ya colder than a witches tit here...1* ambient and -6* windchill
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Wow, you might actually need that sweater yummi!
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SPEC, my wife let's me get away with a lot of shit, but if I brought my fishing gear inside she would probably beat the crap out of me. You lucky dog. ;D
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;D
Specinator only draws the line when I bring live DAD'S in the house for the cats to play with ;D
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Specinator definitely draws the line when the crawdads come in the house for kitties to play with. Although I guess that was no worse than when we and the kitties cornered the mouse in a box and I told Spec to take it outside and let it loose and instead he takes it out into the other room and puts it back down on the floor for the kitties to chase and play with. Then the 3 of them lost him after chasing him around from room to room for about 20 minutes and I had to come in and find him half way up the coat tree hiding under one of specs ties.
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Specinator definitely draws the line when the crawdads come in the house for kitties to play with. Although I guess that was no worse than when we and the kitties cornered the mouse in a box and I told Spec to take it outside and let it loose and instead he takes it out into the other room and puts it back down on the floor for the kitties to chase and play with. Then the 3 of them lost him after chasing him around from room to room for about 20 minutes and I had to come in and find him half way up the coat tree hiding under one of specs ties.
Spec has ties, WTF!! b:1
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Only because I buy them for him. :P You know you have to look good for the judge when you have to go to court as often as he does.
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AND NO, THEY ARE NOT CLIP ON'S!!!!! ;D
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:r
Sux to get old
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I was thinking I'd get this thread back on track...Back to the tires ;)
The next set is the dunlops,They cost a fortune and perform...er ah umm allright...Several of the big manufacturersthink they're good cuz they use them as oem stuff.
I think they have the knobs spaced too far apart for a really good contact patch, they steer okay, If you look at the pix closely you'll see that I have really damaged the outside of the center knobs,The buggy turns, But these tires kinda bitch about it...Okay for average trail riding...I drive it like I stole it
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Sorry I forgot the size
21 x 8 x 10 and they are radials,
They do ride smoother that a bias ply
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The next choice Is the rears on specinator's buggy
HOLESHOT XC's These are great tires...They perform well on all surfaces, they hook up well and self clean in mud, are predictable sliders, even worked pretty well in the sand...They take sharp rock hits well too ;D Only problem is I could never keep air in them...I'll tell you it was frustrating, air them up put them in the tank and no bubbles...Take it out for an hour...next morning ones flat.
Air it up put it in the tank and no bubbles
Grease the bead, same thing
To this day These tires don't make bubbles in the tank but they're both flat
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If you like the Itp holeshots, then you would love the Maxxis RAZR. They have a little harder tread compound and last WAAAAAAAAY longer. I have a tendancy to get drunk and terrorize my neighbor hood on the quads and I went through a set of holeshots in less than 4 months on concrete. My RAZR's have over a year on them on a bike with twice the power and still look new. A little cheaper price too.
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Any news on the 460's yet Spec?
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Does anyone here balance their front atv tires?
I have a new set of ITP Holeshots and one of the tires has a lump or real heavy area in one spot. I ran them on the 954 buggy for a while, and really had a bad wheel hop when I took it above 45mph. Not too noticeable on dirt, but on pavement it was scary.
One of the Kenda front max on the 954 had the same problem, just not quite as bad.
For a while I thought it was one of my hubs. but I finally figured out it was the tires.
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If you like the Itp holeshots, then you would love the Maxxis RAZR. They have a little harder tread compound and last WAAAAAAAAY longer. I have a tendancy to get drunk and terrorize my neighbor hood on the quads and I went through a set of holeshots in less than 4 months on concrete. My RAZR's have over a year on them on a bike with twice the power and still look new. A little cheaper price too.
HE HE HE HE HE IMAGINE THAT :o ;D :P
Rick,
were the tires mounted when you got them?
sounds like a dumb question alot of times they smash them to ship. Or the guy mounting them damaged the cords by too much air to get them to seat. I have had that problem...My solution was to jack up the buggy till the tire just clears the ground... spin it to decide if it's a flat spot or bulge...either way the would-be fix is to hit the low spot with a heat gun with the tire slightly overinflated...If it is a bulge hit the rest of the tire with the heat gun...Turn the tire often and don't leave the heat gun in one place too long, or you will hurt the tire
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Hi Spec, if it was damaged by incorrect fitting, wouldnt it be better to take it back and say Hey dumbarse, you own me a new tyre?
Of course they would then claim you ran over a small south african elephant while chasing pygmies through the aussie outback with the same tyre fitted to a hummer... so I guess you best not waste your time taking them back.....
I didnt know the ITPs would fit on a hummer......
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You gay's are tooooooo fxxkin funny. ;D
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You gay's are tooooooo fxxkin funny. ;D
Now you really MUST understand that I take exception to thi spost ... darling....
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Ok,
Back to the tires...
Ya Dent I got a pair of worn out front Razor's that I picked up on flea pay a while back...I rode on them a few times...They were wore out when I got them But that is a good thing to know.Last set Of tires for me on this thread...
The glowing Greenies...
They're made by Invicta, I had a guy give me some red ones a while back, They didn't get hardly any lap time on them...I was so busy leaving red do-nuts all over I had them down to the cords, In about a week, These green ones havent seen the light of day...They were for my 750... Maybe for LS this fall ;D
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Also,
I'd like to add If anybody whant's to put some tire info up on this thread feel free
I know there's lots of tires out there I haven't tried
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Tyres? Man I wish. We are so limited with availability here on the bottom of the world. A mate recently had one of your site spomnsors buy him tyres and ship them to him. Says it cost an absolute fortune.. but if you want serious tyres here you have no choice.
Im dealing with ITP tyres at the moment trying to get a particular size. Yes they make them, no the aussie distributor doesnt stock them, sure he can get them in but it will cost you 7.5 zillion bucks freight....
The things we have to deal with because we live in Gods Own Country..... sigh..... I guess I better make up my mind whether I go water skiing this arvo or maybe snow skiing... perhaps might grab a few waves instead.... nah I think Ill catch a few trout for dinner... a damn decisions......