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Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« on: September 27, 2010, 08:07:14 PM »
Couple pics of the exploded spring slider and the cause. Blue loctite is apparently unacceptable in this application.  eyes Note the absent setscrew. It was one of only 2 out of 8 still in place,3 were gone entirely. . The collars worked down and when landing like DS and I did it was all over. Sooooo,what's the trick to retaining the damn things? Red loctite?
  THEN there was the flexalite fan/shroud. I'm calling them tomorrow.The blades were flexing enough that they were hitting the struts mounting the motors. Then the blades fractured and the mount also broke as can be sort of seen in the last pic. There were little square chunks missing from all remaining blades so I trimmed all the blades off about 3/8 inch to clear. Still lost 3 more blades.
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 08:41:42 PM »
 Sorry to hear! Hope all works out well. I'm still waiting for video!!!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 08:44:50 PM »
I'm going back in a couple weeks if all goes well. In all honesty with all I had going on I didn't even think to turn the cameras on. :-[ :-[ eyes :-[ :-[  thumb down
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 08:53:28 PM »
I've had one of my blades fail on that same fan once. I thought it was from a cornstalk getting wedged in there but now I'm not so sure.. thumb down I haven't lost one since, but I do carry a spare blade assembly.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 09:00:46 PM »
It was obvious that they hit the struts. Push the blade down approx 1/4" and it was a perfect match on each blade. We could hear them hitting but couldn't figure it out at first where it was coming from. I wonder if the blades could be mounted a 1/4" out further? Are they set screw retained? I haven't looked yet.
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 09:49:47 PM »
At least the radiator didn't get hurt....

Time for a custom fan motor mount?

I hope someone would chime in about the crossover collars.  I can't imagine why they would want to loosen the set screws so badly?
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 09:53:38 PM »
I've not had the problem before either. As to the fan/shroud I'll let you guys know what flexalite has to say.
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 10:01:05 PM »
Quote from: masterfabr on September 27, 2010, 09:00:46 PM
It was obvious that they hit the struts. Push the blade down approx 1/4" and it was a perfect match on each blade. We could hear them hitting but couldn't figure it out at first where it was coming from. I wonder if the blades could be mounted a 1/4" out further? Are they set screw retained? I haven't looked yet.

C-clip with wave washer mounted, roll-pin on the shaft
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 10:02:28 PM »
hmmmmmm
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2010, 12:05:56 AM »
Gees Fabr that's no f n good Mate! I'll hafta watch my shocks :o I wondered why you didn't seem too happy last night now I know why! eyes I hope things get better for ya bud.
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2010, 05:57:04 AM »
It was no biggy but it did  make me take it a bit easier than I wanted to the last day.
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2010, 10:37:17 AM »
How bout some loctite on the collar itself?  Wheres the pic of the you chiseled off in 27 pieces?  Still a successful trip I'd say, and for those who have not seen that bike to vw coupler, pics dont do it justice.  Its slicker than owl shit.
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2010, 11:25:40 AM »
Ya,that pic was of the good one. Heheheeee. We talked about making some from aluminu but with further thought  I'm not going to. IMO,if the collars had not moved there would be no issue with the plastic sliders and the plastic is also a bearing material of some sort. Delrin maybe or something similar I'm pretty sure. Loctite on the collar may/may not work well due to the large thread clearances.Loctite won't fill large gaps BUT your suggestion makes me now think about using loctite liquid pipe sealant. It's possibly thick enough ,sets up firm but pliable.
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2010, 01:13:53 PM »
I have to report on the very prompt and no hassle way the issue with the fans has been handled by Flex-a-lite. They knew right off about the blade issue. Explained i needed to modify the blade tips by clipping the corners to avoid contact with the motor struts. They are aware of it occurring on high HP dragsters due to G loads and vibration. They are sending out 2 new fanblades and a new shroud. He tried to get me a complete unit but I'm happy with getting the blades and shroud no charge. 
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Re: Minor (and luckily all) LS Carnage
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2010, 01:40:56 PM »
Along with the collar coming loose with 2 set screws, which is crazy, and moving itself down.  There was also the chamfer on that collar.  How about a snuggy washer with flat edge to make contact with.  Or turn the collar down to no more chamfer.

I take back them having to change their name to Flex-a-lot.  Glad they made it easy to deal.
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