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Baloo
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Reply #120 on:
March 10, 2019, 01:45:00 PM »
well l like the double wishbone suspension set up, not big travel but probably enough for what I want,
they are easy to bolt into a frame and they are so cheap over here due to them suffering from rust issues to the body shell, no one wants to weld them up or they arnt worth doing you can buy one for a couple hunded pounds/dollars and there are turbo and supercharged versions to be had,
I went with a base layer of 2"x2" box section
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March 10, 2019, 04:12:55 PM »
I like it. All the hard stuff is already done.
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Baloo
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July 31, 2020, 08:07:31 AM »
hello boys hows things over there ?
cant remember where i got to posting wise
amongst my half dozen projects i have one using mx5 front and rear suspension
i have been progressing that one while i waiting for bits to arrive for one of the others
heres a few pics to bring it back up todate
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Baloo
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dsrace
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August 01, 2020, 08:52:20 AM »
looks like you've made some progress!
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Baloo
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August 02, 2020, 12:03:31 PM »
hi
well ive added in some more tubes not sure its progress lol, ive been running a standard car round my track and i dont think the suspension is going to be up to it at anything other than walking pace, i think i need long ravel but this is the uk and there is no ready available stuff on the market and our idea of long travel is probably your idea of short travel lol
what is you sell dsrace ?l
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dsrace
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August 02, 2020, 12:09:44 PM »
i dont really sell anything anymore. i still have the jigs to build a a rm front ends. i/we ( dts) can explain how to build longer travel components but you will need shocks to match.
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Baloo
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August 02, 2020, 12:40:28 PM »
im just working my way through your posts on suspension you seem to know your stuff
i think what i would like is something like a honda pilot but 50% bigger so i fit in it , as for suspension travel i think 12" would be plenty ?
front is pretty much A arm but the rear is more tricky as i would like to use a car engine and box which is fairly wide leaving less room for A arms or at least they would be pretty short which rather defeats the aim ? so maybe trailing arm at the back ?
any help in designing something would be much appreciated
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dsrace
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August 04, 2020, 04:38:25 PM »
lol well hond pilots are pretty small lol dont get me wrong, pilots are/were a blast! so do you have any pics of the trans box you have in mind? so trailing arms (ta's) are not as simple as people think but the easiest to set up, maybe. they are definately the most limiting in the grand scheme of suspension geometry. post up a few pics and i and everyone else will pitch in on some ideas. if you build a rear cradle like you have in the pics above then the sky is the limit!
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dsrace
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August 04, 2020, 04:41:38 PM »
any sources for fox or king shocks over your way? i would assume so or are there any sxs junk yards or used parts for sale? most of the sxs 1000cc or turbo 1000 units are 1700lbs to 2000 plus lbs depending. stock shocks on 24" travel units are typically 12" stroke or 10" on 20" travel units. so these would be viable options if those are easier to come by.
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Reply #132 on:
August 04, 2020, 04:43:41 PM »
if you do have sources for those then i would target the 2.5 podium series or atleast the 2.5 body shocks. those will offer better options especially for 12" of travel which i think may be to little but hey it your project lol i would shoot for 16 to 18" and i think thats acheivable.
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August 04, 2020, 04:59:42 PM »
https://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/semi-trailing-arm-geometry.82413/
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Baloo
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August 05, 2020, 07:04:08 AM »
Hi
well im thinking rear engine as it might make the buggy smaller overall ? engine choice is pretty much wide open any front engined modern car will work i guess, i have a choice of 2 or 3 kicking around the place first is the rover K series as found in the back of an mgf so its already set up for cable gearchange and hand brake on the rear calipers, its big plus is that its all aluminum so a very light engine which is why lotus used it guess and a turbo version is found in the rover 75 car
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_K-series_engine
i also have an audi/vw 4 cylinder turbo engine and box this will make heaps more power than the rover but its cast iron and weighs considerably more and if i really want to i also have a golf Vr6 2.8 that will have instant grunt and no turbo lag but how much power do you need ? i feel the the rover K series will work with around 140 hp ? the golf is more like 240 hp
golf engine looks like this fairly narrow front to back with the ancillaries removed so could the A arms run down in front and behind it to make them a reasonable length ? but what would they mount to ?
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