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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2011, 08:34:24 PM »
1-6. EMF Information
Electric current flowing through any conductor causes localized electric
and magnetic fields (EMF). Welding current creates an EMF field
around the welding circuit and welding equipment. EMF fields may interfere
with some medical implants, e.g. pacemakers. Protective
measures for persons wearing medical implants have to be taken. For
example, access restrictions for passers?by or individual risk assessment
for welders. All welders should use the following procedures in
order to minimize exposure to EMF fields from the welding circuit:
1. Keep cables close together by twisting or taping them, or using a
cable cover.
2. Do not place your body between welding cables. Arrange cables
to one side and away from the operator.
3. Do not coil or drape cables around your body.
4. Keep head and trunk as far away from the equipment in the
welding circuit as possible.
5. Connect work clamp to workpiece as close to the weld as
possible.
6. Do not work next to, sit or lean on the welding power source.
7. Do not weld whilst carrying the welding power source or wire
feeder.
About Implanted Medical Devices:
Implanted Medical Device wearers should consult their doctor and the
device manufacturer before performing or going near arc welding, spot
welding, gouging, plasma arc cutting, or induction heating operations.
If cleared by your doctor, then following the above procedures is recommended
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2011, 08:39:31 PM »
Wow Man my head's spinning ya replying too fast. Shit can you read minds? God not even my thoughts are safe anymore.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2011, 08:43:33 PM »
Is that all that AS60974.10 says? I sort of started reading it but got interupted part the way through. Well there will be no one with a pace maker around while I'm welding.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2011, 08:48:23 PM »
You guys wanna know a secret? It's a highly hidden secret as most males refuse to accept it as fact. As a matter of fact most wear as a badge of pride the fact that they don't read instructions. The ONLY reason I know what I know is that I read everything in site,including instructions and owners manuals. Always have ,always will. I just have an insatiable desire to gather as much info as I can about anything I do. I also HATE to have to ask for help as it is so often dispensed by those that have no clue but just spout out BS trying to act like they are experts. On DTS,sometimes  some such as myself,come across as smartasses,assholes,or worse but,speaking for myself anyway,will never just spout out BS knowingly. That's not our style. Soooo....... I apologize if I pissed you off earlier when I said it was obvious you knew nothing about electricity and should hire a pro. BUT ,as you said later,you don't. I DO NOT want to be a part of anyone getting fried. IF you want to be walked through how to wire it yourself with a 100 amp branch it can be done according to US standards but I DO NOT know if it would pass Oz codes. I don't know offhand of anything that could be different there tho. Might take a small bit of web searching to verify that.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2011, 08:50:21 PM »
Is that all that AS60974.10 says? I sort of started but got interupted part the way through. Well there will be no one with a pace maker around while I'm welding.
Thaty was quoted from a US manual. Again,I do not know if there are different OZ standards but the machine IS safe wired as shown to minimize/eliminate EMF and any communications issues.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2011, 08:56:27 PM »
Thanks Fabr, sorry I went off I have a bad habbit of doing that sometimes, but I am a bit guilty of not reading the info at hand cause of other stuff happening at the moment around me with my Daughter. I do appreciate the time you've taken to help me so far thanks. No I didn't want to be walked through wiring it up as will have an eletrictian do it. It was just I couldn't understand why the dicks at the weld shops were telling me I couldn't use the machine, and there are three or four for sale on ebay.
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« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2011, 09:01:55 PM »
Have fun . Let us know if you want to run that branch. No reason not to just do it yourself. It's only 4 wires. I'm pretty sure we can find you a schematic online.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2011, 09:03:37 PM »
Have fun . Let us know if you want to run that branch. No reason not to just do it yourself. It's only 4 wires. I'm pretty sure we can find you a schematic online.
I should to save some money, and I will let ya know how I go.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2011, 09:04:29 PM »
Hell,just read this and watch the vid. Ignore the GFCI parts.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
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loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2011, 09:23:11 PM »
Hell,just read this and watch the vid. Ignore the GFCI parts.
Was there suppose to be a link posted with that? What vid?
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"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2011, 10:24:36 PM »
Yeah it's not that hard huh. Thanks.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2011, 10:28:52 PM »
Don't go by it as it has GFCI protection that you do not want but it helps show the general idea.  IF you decide to go it alone be VERY CAREFUL of the 3 wires connected to the main lugs as they will still be energized while you are in the panel even with the main breaker off. Just stay clear of them. Should be easy except when feeding wires into the panel.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2011, 10:30:13 PM »
You;ll save a bundle doing it yourself. I'm still wondering what the fine is and if there is even one that would apply to you if caught with a non compliant unit.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2011, 10:53:04 PM »
Yeah it's got me worried too, I've been looking but can't find any decent info about the stupid thing. The other thing is I'm not sure on the amps, I don't know what the maximum is. Cause you say 50 amps when you were talking earlier. Also I can't hook my shed up to 3phase cause the council will say I can't have the shed cause of zoning. But I've been looking into those converters, you plug in single phase and it converts it to 3phase.
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