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Machinery, Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes => Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes => Topic started by: komelika on September 09, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
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I'm nearly done with the barracuda and need to start thinking about a trailer. It will be purpose built for the buggy. I'm thinking it needs to be a tilt trailer since I don't have reverse. I like the snowmobile trailers since the tires are below the deck, which will make it a better fit for my garage. Anyone see any issues with something like this? it can be modified to fit the buggy dimensions.
http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-2603-10x82-snowmobile-tilt-deck-trailer-plans-10sn.aspx (http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-2603-10x82-snowmobile-tilt-deck-trailer-plans-10sn.aspx)
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not a bad idea
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The only thing i don't like is the 12" wheels. Even lite those tires and bearings will get hot spinning that fast.
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Actually ,for a small trailer the short ,very wide trailer tires work quite well. Narrow ones ,nah.
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I'm nearly done with the barracuda
FOCUS !!!!! and finish................
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Prob no need for the tilt. Quit easy to push off.
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If I was making a dedicated trailer for one buggy, I would make a T trailer like some sand rail guys use. With trailer tires just outside rear tires on buggy, can use full height. You still get a lower height on the buggy and a small foot print in the garage.
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+1
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I did consider the T-Trailer idea too. I used one for a sand rail I had years ago and it worked fine. Cheap too!
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Not to mention convenient.
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FOCUS !!!!! and finish................
I'm hoping to get the whole day in the garage tomorrow. I have everything I need to do the clutch. Needs to go through rear suspension and tighten everything up, align front and rear, fab a motor mount, and get the chain on it, and then it should be ready for a shakedown.
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Not to mention convenient.
Th only down side is the width. It has to be wide enough to drive the front tires on which will be close to 6.5' putting the trailer close to 8' from outside tire to outside tire. If I do the snowmobile type then I can make it 7' wide.
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Drive the fronts up and over the trailer wheels.
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Drive the fronts up and over the trailer wheels.
I'm starting to think this is the best option. Simple enough.
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;) ;) Just turn the fender wells into front tire ramps.
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I'm thinking more along the lines of building a narrow axle deck trailer. The deck will be the same width as the outside tire to outside tire measurement. 7' wide by 11' (+ 4' hitch) would be perfect for the buggy and fit in my garage perfectly. The fenders would just be bumps in the deck. And I can make sliding ramps. I'm just trying to decide between leaf springs or torsion axles.
The T trailer is cool, but without reverse I think it could get pretty old muscling the buggy off the trailer and I don't want it going down the road tied down at a 45 degree angle. rofl
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Torsion could help keep the deck height lower.
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Make a side loader like some snowmobile trailers are made. Drive on /drive off.
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Make a side loader like some snowmobile trailers are made. Drive on /drive off.
The deck will be the same width as the outside tire to outside tire measurement. 7' wide by 11'
Probably not legal in many states
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I'm 72 feet long,not legal either. ;D My first buggy would have been legal width on a trailer sideways. Depends on overall buggy length tho as Carl says.
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Make a side loader like some snowmobile trailers are made. Drive on /drive off.
The deck will be the same width as the outside tire to outside tire measurement. 7' wide by 11'
Probably not legal in many states
Can't imagine why not. My Travel Trailer exceeds both measurements. As far as I can tell it can't be over 8-1/2' wide. Essentially it is just about the same as a snowmobile trailer, except that it doesn't tilt and it has larger diameter tires.
New Mexico Towing Laws
Height 14' (1)
Width 8 1/2'
Combined Length 65'
Trailer Length NS (41)
Trailer Width 8'0"
Trailer Height 14'0"
MH Length 40'
Two Vehicle Length 65'
Triple Tow yes
Safety Chains yes
Breakaway Not Stated
Fire Extinguisher Not Stated
Flare Signs yes
Brake Laws Trailers 3000 (17)
Brake Laws Towed Cars Brake hookup required.
Wipers Not Stated
Overnight Parking P
Max Tow Speed 75
Ride In 5th-Wheel
Ride Pickup Camper
Ride Travel Trailer
Speed Limit Posted
GVW Manufactured Stated Gross Weight
Axle 21,600 lbs
License Required Class D
Reciprocity Yes
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Fabr was thinking drive up on side, drive off other side. And if buggy is 11', no way can tow that. Or I could be compleatly off base, its Fri 13th and nearly 5.
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Fabr was thinking drive up on side, drive off other side. And if buggy is 11', no way can tow that. Or I could be compleatly off base, its Fri 13th and nearly 5.
Oh, I see. Sorry.
Friday the 13th... just announced layoffs at work. Fitting!
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Don't you love it.
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Don't you love it.
Looks like they are looking to cut 400 jobs. My factory employs about 3500 They prefer to call it a "redeployment". Could be worse. They are closing another factory in the NE impacting about 700 employees. If they close this factory the whole State of NM would be screwed!
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Make a side loader like some snowmobile trailers are made. Drive on /drive off.
Hell just pop a wheelie and jump off! Fall off, drive on. :) :) :)
I have thought about building my own trailer in the past. Just didnt work out to be cost effective. Have you checked with a few dealers to see if you could order what you want and how much of course. Just like building a buggy, all the little parts add up.
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+1.
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No, I'm figuring I can build it for half the cost of buying and my needs are pretty specific. A car hauler is too much trailer and a utility trailer is too little. My F-in-L just got a free utility trailer from a neighbor (guy just gave him a perfectly good trailer) and he says I can have it, but I feel bad taking it and I think it is probably a 2000 lb (or less) axle. I think I need at least a 3500 lb. axle for a 1000-1100 lb. car + trailer weight + any tool boxes I put on it.
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No, I'm figuring I can build it for half the cost of buying and my needs are pretty specific. A car hauler is too much trailer and a utility trailer is too little. My F-in-L just got a free utility trailer from a neighbor (guy just gave him a perfectly good trailer) and he says I can have it, but I feel bad taking it and I think it is probably a 2000 lb (or less) axle. I think I need at least a 3500 lb. axle for a 1000-1100 lb. car + trailer weight + any tool boxes I put on it.
Dam, glad your factoring in the weight of the trailer, buggy and tools. I laugh to my self at people buying "enclosed car haulers" with 3500lb axles for their 1967 chevelle. 4k+ of trailer and 4 k of car. Glad your using your head. Axles are not cheap. But the 3500 are decent in price.
Side note. When I was selling my old enclosed I took count less calls from people trying to beat me up on price comparing my 12k trailer to a 7k. 95% of the world don't understand simple math. The think the 7k is the payload. Dont even try to explain that to them. I went through a lot of beer making that sell.
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I own a 20' tilting flat bed. Make it hydraulic. I used a buddies smaller one and it was not hydraulic. Played hell loading it, it kept going back up to level. It had shocks on it to hold it up but they were shot. That said, would you like me to get pictures of it. Works well with good shocks. But a jack is easier to maintane.
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Ridding yourself of ramps is a blessing in itself!
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I own a 20' tilting flat bed. Make it hydraulic. I used a buddies smaller one and it was not hydraulic. Played hell loading it, it kept going back up to level. It had shocks on it to hold it up but they were shot. That said, would you like me to get pictures of it. Works well with good shocks. But a jack is easier to maintane.
I hear you about the trailer weight. I see some crazy shit on the freeways around here, including overloaded half ton trucks. I wish the po po would pay more attention to that kind of thing since it puts EVERYONE at risk. Can't tell you how many times I've seen cars being pulled down the road with a chinsey ass rope. I've even seen someone pulling a car with jumper cables!!!!
Anyway, sure pics would be cool. I thought about hydraulics before, but really, I need to keep the cost down. The sooner I get the trailer paid for and built the sooner I can get started on building something for the kids.
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Im talking about using a floor or tall bottle jack, not electric pump etc. The one with shocks uses 4 shocks. Jack is cheaper.
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-ton-super-heavy-duty-long-ram-hydraulic-round-bottom-jack-36397.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/8-ton-super-heavy-duty-long-ram-hydraulic-round-bottom-jack-36397.html)
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How about drop axles? Crank down the frame and drive buggy on, then crank up wheels and go.
http://www.roadkingoutdoors.com/trailers.html (http://www.roadkingoutdoors.com/trailers.html)
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WOW ,I've never seen such a design.
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WOW ,I've never seen such a design.
up here in the frozen north, we use the frames for drop axle ice fishing shacks.
http://icecastlefh.com (http://icecastlefh.com)
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wonder how that would handle a 1200 lb to 2k lb rail down the interstate?
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No need to complicate stuff. For a small m/c buggy, just roll it down some ramps to unload, drive up ramps to load. No way I'd trust any big weight to a tilt, drop setup.
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I'm sure you put pins in after cranking up.
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I'm sure you put pins in after cranking up.
yes there is pins you install.could build one and make an enclosed trailer and drop it down to drive buggy on. Here is an example of an ice shack being built.http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2740146/1 (http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2740146/1)
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I think its a neat idea. But I question the effects of miles on that design. You will always have that axle twisting at the mounts. You have a leaf spring set up like a torsion axle. I think the camber will go south pretty quick campared to the conventional axles set ups. Looks perfect for what your using them for. But how many miles are you putting on them? Not bashing it. Just wrapping my head around it.
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I think its a neat idea. But I question the effects of miles on that design. You will always have that axle twisting at the mounts. You have a leaf spring set up like a torsion axle. I think the camber will go south pretty quick campared to the conventional axles set ups. Looks perfect for what your using them for. But how many miles are you putting on them? Not bashing it. Just wrapping my head around it.
+1
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I think its a neat idea. But I question the effects of miles on that design. You will always have that axle twisting at the mounts. You have a leaf spring set up like a torsion axle. I think the camber will go south pretty quick campared to the conventional axles set ups. Looks perfect for what your using them for. But how many miles are you putting on them? Not bashing it. Just wrapping my head around it.
was just throwing it out there.
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I'm sure you put pins in after cranking up.
here is a better picture.
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For a relatively light trailer,I see no reason why it would not work well.