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This topic got out of hand on another site...But it WON'T here One of our new members is looking into buying a tubing bender in the real near future...My suggestion is to buy a JD2, and an air over hyd. jack/ram... it is slow but does a nice job and is effortless on my part...The added bonus is I can wheel it all around the shop or out side if need be...it doesn't need to be bolted to the floor, just in reach of an air hose