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The video room / Re: interesting discussion
« Last post by fabr on Yesterday at 06:29:33 PM »
Great vids. Some differing opinions . Not unusual. I'd buy an RG car before I'd spend a penny on a Poolaris anything honestly. RG looks to be high quality engineering and build quality , ready for battle when you get it unlike Poolaris and all other SxS with serious compromises of design.

As for the different rear suspensions , all have positives and negatives including my favorite type-A arm.  RG never addressed the rear axle shaft and how much plunge was and how it is dealt with . I'd like to see a lot more about that though.

We need to sit down and discuss this stuff at LS. Way too much to type . LOL!!
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The video room / Re: interesting discusion
« Last post by dsrace on August 14, 2022, 07:06:10 AM »
i want to start off by saying i have 0 issues with TA rear ends. TA ( trailing arm ) rear end designs are solid and have a lot of plus's. a arm rear ends offer more imo as well as multi link. the sxs 3 link designs are lacking in a lot of area's imo. in the Shock theropy (ST) video he mentions the rzr xp inhearant 4" toe in flaw. that is absolutely horrible and unacceptable imo. a team of engineers and that was the best they could come up with! how bad is the front end then?? i still cannot figure out why rzr put that toe link on the pro R !? it looks to be 22* or less and i cannot wrap my head around why that would be a good idea for toe adjustment! the sxs's are top heavy and roll easy, for that reason alone i personally believe the TA would be a better fit as they don't seem to want to go wider for stability. couple that with the wheel travel war they have going on, and the lack of suspension design, the TA is an even better choice.  i really like that 2.0 engine rzr put out but the sxs is just sooooo ugly ( looks like japenese animae )as i find most of them. robby's design is far more appealing.

i saw that the new rzr has a claimed 24" of wheel travel and 16" of GC at ride height. as we all know, to have a usable 24" of wheel travel you will need 28" of GC at full droop. so does that mean the rzr is giving up 50% at ride height?? my guess is the rzr doesn't have a true 24" of wheel travel. if it did, it would be extremely top heavy at full droop as narrow as it would get at only 72" wide track width.

one thing that was stated by ST was that 18" of wheel travel is all one really needs, i agree. i disagree with his reasoning why he wouldn't choose a TA rear end as a team of engineers should easily be able to design the solution the telescoping cv/axle issue.  now he didn't go into detail and i understand why. he is speaking to the mass's and they don't want to understand they just want to pick out the prettiest color.

 robby stated in his video that 11" of travel, with a proper shock  configuration, won a desert race, also that they went with 22" travel in there utv's.  again , i agree , with a properly spec'd shock , this makes all the diff in the world. they are not cheap though and why he's running 4.0 shocks on speed utv's sxs's.







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The video room / Re: interesting discusion
« Last post by dsrace on August 14, 2022, 05:44:38 AM »
another interesting video over all but pay attention to 6:40 where is address's shock theropy's  thoughts  :m
not sure if anyone remebers where the owner of shock theropy got his start in the offroad biz.
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The video room / interesting discussion
« Last post by dsrace on August 14, 2022, 05:39:27 AM »
the entire video is sort of interesting. he does a decent job explaining the rear end design for the mass's that don't really want to understand.  at 21:14 he offers his thoughts on trailing arms.

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Group Gatherings/Special Events / Re: Fall Gathering Oct 23-29 2022 Final Decision
« Last post by fabr on August 06, 2022, 06:37:01 AM »
I hear you!! I have more stuff to do than time.
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Group Gatherings/Special Events / Re: Fall Gathering Oct 23-29 2022 Final Decision
« Last post by dsrace on August 06, 2022, 05:31:30 AM »
Getr' done!! Maybe we'll both be ready with new combos come spring.  I'm still waiting on some pieces for the 427 sb2.2   This is getting ridiculous as all get out!  The 360 sb2.2 is still going though. Cross fingers on how long the spindly crank will hold up to constant on/off throttle. Maybe I'm gun shy for no real reason. Those Bryant cranks are tough SOB's.

it is sad these gov made shortages have hit all of us sooooo bad! that truly sucks it has taken so long to get your parts. i know your more then capable of building the engine hands down! i can understand the gun shy part though.  after working all day in the heat, it's just so hard to force myself back into it after i get home and cooled down. my parts for the garage ac just showed up yesterday after 4 weeks on order! that's just rediculous and am going to spend the day working on scotts rail today. i have some plans for mine but it will be a winter project for sure. been a crazy year for myself this year and the 4 rounds of hail storms has sent us in to overdrive at work. didn't even have time to for my wifes family's annual lake get together or my own families. infact i have only taken time off to take the miss's to mt rushmore for our 20th this year. throw the hail damage on top of that, hell i haven't even had a day to pull the brand new customer fixer upper toyhauler out to replace the water pump and the thermostat snap switch's on the water heater and still need to figure out how to get to the furnace to check the sail switch! i have a full set of power stabilizers to install on it yet as well. the upside is that i should be able to fire up the ac in the garage today, finally! 
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Something to talk about / Re: It's all Grimm Reapers fault!
« Last post by dsrace on August 06, 2022, 05:22:13 AM »
:m :m :m I'd join you but the dune house AC went on vacation. Too damn hot to care right now. I'll fix/replace when it gets to only 90 degrees. This 105+ shit is ridiculous!

oh i cannot imagine that heat on the dunes. went down one june ( allans date choice ) and it was flat out too hot to ride! i was a lot younger then and could handle it better but i still couldn't!
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Group Gatherings/Special Events / Re: Fall Gathering Oct 23-29 2022 Final Decision
« Last post by fabr on August 05, 2022, 06:14:39 PM »
Getr' done!! Maybe we'll both be ready with new combos come spring.  I'm still waiting on some pieces for the 427 sb2.2   This is getting ridiculous as all get out!  The 360 sb2.2 is still going though. Cross fingers on how long the spindly crank will hold up to constant on/off throttle. Maybe I'm gun shy for no real reason. Those Bryant cranks are tough SOB's.
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Something to talk about / Re: It's all Grimm Reapers fault!
« Last post by fabr on August 05, 2022, 06:07:35 PM »
 :m :m :m I'd join you but the dune house AC went on vacation. Too damn hot to care right now. I'll fix/replace when it gets to only 90 degrees. This 105+ shit is ridiculous!
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Group Gatherings/Special Events / Re: Fall Gathering Oct 23-29 2022 Final Decision
« Last post by dsrace on August 05, 2022, 01:53:16 PM »
As far as my rail goes......I have some plans for it as a winter project. There are a few other mods I have been wanting to make and as far as I will be stripping it to fit the hv24 trans, well, might as well get it all done at the same time. I still have the tube to build another frame but this frame has been capable so far and is plenty heavy. The new trans is 50 lbs heavier and I have been at the limits of the 2.5 air shocks ..... imo. I have 12" stroke internal bypass coil overs for the front already.   Been waiting and watching for a pair of 3.0 internal bypass coilovers for the rear. Need a min of 12" stroke and I'll reduce to 22" stroke in the rear. I bet the 3.0 c/o would do fine at 2-1 ratio.
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