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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / toyhauler
« Last post by dsrace on February 14, 2021, 04:48:34 PM »
considered this floor plan just 6' longer, fridge moved back 3' for an additional 3' of counter top and plus a sink in the bath and a shower not a tub! the 24 version of this only weighs 5700 lbs and the changes i considered still left 14' 3" for the rail. this is the interior color that we went with on the 26' we did order.  it is nice they use residential queen beds. really nice small toyhaulers they call this one the dk floor plan  https://dunesport.com/build-toy-hauler-2.php?trailerid=150&type=Toy%20Hauler























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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by dsrace on February 04, 2021, 12:45:10 PM »
depending on dimensions, there are 4 or 5 places that sell them up to 96" long. chinese knock offs to quality box's.  in other words amazon to bauer built  ;)   i do not know if the outrigger spacing is even or not or what it will be. once i know that then i'll know what i can do.  i see no reason why i couldn't just notch the back out for the outrigger and glue that area to the frame to keep it sealed. either that or individual boxs
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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by budlight69 on February 04, 2021, 09:10:12 AM »
this is what i want to do to the lower of the new one. ordered w/o lower skirting .








Do you buy those somewhere, are they custom made or do you have to make them?  A cool addition either way! 
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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by fabr on February 03, 2021, 06:14:30 PM »
You'll LOVE that.
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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by dsrace on February 03, 2021, 03:52:24 PM »
this is what i want to do to the lower of the new one. ordered w/o lower skirting .







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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by dsrace on January 16, 2021, 10:12:17 AM »
budligt69 , i think you as well as many others can appreciate the custom addition to the patio wall in this custom fifthwheel  ;D ;D i know you'll spot it  ;) ;)

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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by dsrace on January 16, 2021, 09:54:42 AM »
in this video he used the gen 1 3 seasons folding patio door. they used vinyl windows rather than glass. you can see the daylight at the bottom and top of the unit and that didn't change on the gen 2 model with glass.



you can see the new design in this video.

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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by dsrace on January 16, 2021, 09:43:10 AM »
budlight69  they do offer a sliding glass door as seen in this video. i do not like sliding glass doors so i was out on that option. now there are 3 seasons folding patio doors as an option. they are nice as the top windows lower for half screen walls. windows are tinted as well for some solar deflection. 2 problems with those...... A. the take that patio box intrusion from 6" to 10" deep. B. they are not sealed top and bottom but rather use a brush bristle type affair. i do not like that for the bug intrusion factor and we make 2 or 3 trips a year where there are lots of bugs. it would give the full glass wall look which would be nice but to many con's.

based on how i took our conversation, sounds like they'll weld a frame to support the side patio opening. when sticking with a standard 48" wide by 22" tall sliding window along with a standard 30" wide rv entry door then the box intrusion is only 2.75" as seen in that cad print.  i assume he was able to do so as the patio walls are removable also. i just sent an e mail to confirm this to be sure.




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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by dsrace on January 16, 2021, 09:13:56 AM »
all they say about spread axles


7Trailer Design Considerations•
 Spread axle mounting will lend added support to frame structures but will result in more tire wear and impose higher stresses on the axle components and axle mountings. Increased tire wear usually results from the added side scrubbing that occurs when negotiating sharp turns or corners.
• Wide-spread Torflex® axles will be subjected to higher stresses at the bracket/tube interfaces as a result of frame racking. Racking occurs when the vehicle travels over uneven surfaces and the loads imposed at each wheel are substantially different. If the torsional stiffness of the vehicle structure is relatively low, the areas where the cross members are joined to the main frame rails and the axle bracket/tube welds must withstand the twisting that occurs in these critical regions. Excessive flexing may result in fatigue failures. To reduce the potential for problems due to racking, position the axles closer together.
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Trailers, Toyhaulers and Motorhomes / Re: leaf spring vs slipper spring
« Last post by dsrace on January 16, 2021, 09:09:29 AM »
fabr...... you had meantioned some time back, that you didnt care for slipper springs on light and med duty applications. can you elaborate on that?

i ask because i'm getting ready to order a custom trailer with dual 7k axles and debating standard leaf vs slipper. i do not like torsion axles as i have seen there limitations many times.

Could you expand on the torsion axle issue?  thanks

for what  it's worth..... direct from dexter axle's pdf page.   

Trailers equipped with Torflex®axles must be towed in a level attitude to ensure even loading of the axles. Out-of-level towing results in higher loads being imposed on the axle at the low portion of the frame and less load on the axle(s) at the high end. This uneven load distribution may cause excessive stress concentrations on the frame structure. Uneven loading of non-equalized suspensions can also affect the ride characteristics by altering the natural frequency of the structure
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