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The DTS Trader => Wanted => Topic started by: Admin on May 12, 2009, 05:10:44 PM
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Ok, whats everyone think, this is new stuff to me, ) experience...
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Air bags first.
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get rid of that 1/2 ton stuff and be done with this silly thread.....?
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get rid of that 1/2 ton stuff and be done with this silly thread.....?
There is a nice Dodge at the dealership for 35,000, When should I expect the check in the mail from you?
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I have had everything under the sun for trucks and cars, Used to do a little car dealing, Last real truck was a f350 powerstroke...
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Air bags first.
and second...
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have you considered the sensatrac load leveler shocks with the helper springs on them? I have had a few sets on my truck and I like them. I tow a lot of shit.
My trailer weighs 2300lbs empty and I have no trouble tooling down the highway with a 3000lbs skid loader or 5000lb vehicle on the trailer behind my Dakota. I know I have well exceeded it's stated towing capacity on many occasions, but as long as everything is stable and I got the power to pull it, I'm gonna keep on keepin on. Tongue weight is always correct, or damn close to it when I am loading. That's the key. Oh, and a nice level trailer.
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Speaking of airbags you COULD just bolt Artie and trojan under the van.
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get rid of that 1/2 ton stuff and be done with this silly thread.....?
Now this is porn. (Truck porn) This Sh*%#T give's me wood. Nothing like a big one ton dully straped to your ass. Arti's got his buggy porn I got my truck porn. ;D ;D 8)
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I think I'd air bag it or air shock it 1st...
As for the 1 ton dually.....
Extra long chassis so you can woodgas it...other wise with the price of gas going back up...you'll have lots of time to look at it in the driveway ;D
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I think I'd air bag it or air shock it 1st...
As for the 1 ton dually.....
Extra long chassis so you can woodgas it...other wise with the price of gas going back up...you'll have lots of time to look at it in the driveway ;D
I likey any thing that can have it's own zip coed. That way when times do get real bad. You can live in it. ;D
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me too ;D
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Air bags work and are a proven technology. Look at the new big rigs tons of them on air. A good friend of DS and mine has a 1/2 ton GMC and pulls a 24 H&H enclosed trailer from here in Lincoln to LS. He has an WD hitch but as still not happy with the way the rear of the truck carried the weight. He had air bags put in and after his first trip down he never looked back. He loves them. Let the pressure out when empty no effect on ride quality, have to haul a load fill them back up and go. I am going to put them on my 3/4 ton for that extra stability under heavy load. Cheaper than a new truck. I strongly recommend the air bag. I would spend the extra money and go air bag instead of air shock. Air shock requires x pressure at all times to keep from harm. I would also plumb them in side independent. So your air is not able to flow between the sides. IE get on a side hill and the low side gets lower. \
I have seen the air bags work for Allan on his rig and am sold. He will be at October sand in your beer fest I am sure.
Just a extra note always be sure your tires are able to carry the load your new spring can support.
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Air bags work and are a proven technology. Look at the new big rigs tons of them on air. A good friend of DS and mine has a 1/2 ton GMC and pulls a 24 H&H enclosed trailer from here in Lincoln to LS. He has an WD hitch but as still not happy with the way the rear of the truck carried the weight. He had air bags put in and after his first trip down he never looked back. He loves them. Let the pressure out when empty no effect on ride quality, have to haul a load fill them back up and go. I am going to put them on my 3/4 ton for that extra stability under heavy load. Cheaper than a new truck. I strongly recommend the air bag. I would spend the extra money and go air bag instead of air shock. Air shock requires x pressure at all times to keep from harm. I would also plumb them in side independent. So your air is not able to flow between the sides. IE get on a side hill and the low side gets lower. \
I have seen the air bags work for Allan on his rig and am sold. He will be at October sand in your beer fest I am sure.
Just a extra note always be sure your tires are able to carry the load your new spring can support.
All you pep's using air bags. What would the life of them be in terms of rubber rot and the such? Two years three what?
I am thinking of installing a set on my one ton to help counter the wave motion on rolling bumpy hi way's. I pull a 5ver loaded wighing in at about 17.000 LB's. I think that is 7711.2 KG for you down under guy's.
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Sun light is the bigger rotter. See school buses making over 5 years.
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All you pep's using air bags. What would the life of them be in terms of rubber rot and the such? Two years three what?
I am thinking of installing a set on my one ton to help counter the wave motion on rolling bumpy hi way's. I pull a 5ver loaded wighing in at about 17.000 LB's. I think that is 7711.2 KG for you down under guy's.
I have had some on a 95 half ton for at least 7 years. I have had more trouble with the pump than anything. No problems with the bags. All half tons are not created equal either. The axles/brakes on a 90's chevy are easily as heavy duty or heavier than a 70-80's 3/4 ton. I don't know if the bags will help with bucking on crappy highways. They are just an extra spring. They don't really affect anything except ride heigth that I can tell. They might make an improvement if it keeps you from bouncing off of overloads or bump stops.
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Yeah buddy.I've used both and IMO bug would be far ahead to use the bags. If he needs a sway control that is easily added to any hitch. Just a tab to weld on .
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Bags still will have the same load on the rear tires, they wont transfer any load to the front like a WD am I not correct?
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I have had some on a 95 half ton for at least 7 years. I have had more trouble with the pump than anything. No problems with the bags. All half tons are not created equal either. The axles/brakes on a 90's chevy are easily as heavy duty or heavier than a 70-80's 3/4 ton. I don't know if the bags will help with bucking on crappy highways. They are just an extra spring. They don't really affect anything except ride heigth that I can tell. They might make an improvement if it keeps you from bouncing off of overloads or bump stops.
I think that bouncing off the overloads mite be some of the problem. And then when the weight comes back down it gives it the submarine dive effect.
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I think that bouncing off the overloads mite be some of the problem. And then when the weight comes back down it gives it the submarine dive effect.
Bouncing off the overloads is a big problem. I had a 96 GMC dually that had overloads, and when empty, the right bump or railroad tracks would smack your head aginst the roof. It was wiplash central. With the right loading just above the overloads, and the right road with waves or even rough concrete divides, it was almost undriveable it was so rough.
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Rear axle is about 30" from the bumper, add 400lbs, of cargo, in reality I already have my tounge weight accounted for, then add a trailer on top of that at 400lb tounge weight and she is loaded... Either way Air bags Vs WD cost is about the same, Air bags stay with the van when it goes, WD does not, Wd likely will make my van handle much beeter steering etc, Im not worried about the 50 mile trip to durhamtown, I am more so worried about the 1000 mile trip home/ little sahara etc.. Both of my toys weigh in roughly 1200/1000 lbs, this trailer i have there isnt much room for adjusting the load, just pick which one needs to go on front/rear... When i came down here i had the trailer and the van loaded, the back tires were even squated down.. ;D
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I am just taking a crap shoot guess at trailer weight as well. I could be way off, I am guessing unloaded it weighs 1500 lbs, prowler was 1100 stock, im gonna say 1200 now, Drak was adverted at 795, im gonna say more like 900, another 500lb of shit in the back of the van...
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Do what you want but IMO you are making a mistake using a WD hitch. I'll never go with a WD again.Hell I'd sell you mine cheap but I use the hitch with it's 2 5/16 ball too much as it is. Hell just the hitch weighs about 60 pounds all by itself.
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I got a spare receiver to cure that problem..
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How's a receiver gonna fix what problem?
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Do what you want but IMO you are making a mistake using a WD hitch. I'll never go with a WD again.Hell I'd sell you mine cheap but I use the hitch with it's 2 5/16 ball too much as it is. Hell just the hitch weighs about 60 pounds all by itself.
Like so... :)
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Ahhh,I see what you mean. Nope,won't help tho.
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Who says the bags have to be sold with the truck? Take them off in that case. If you can build a buggy I bet you could make some brackets to put the bags on a new rig. ;)
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I'm surprised bug didn't think of that.
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Who says the bags have to be sold with the truck? Take them off in that case. If you can build a buggy I bet you could make some brackets to put the bags on a new rig. ;)
Yes i likely could, The brackets seem specialized for the vehicle, Im not real sure what to do here... Pulling out my hair, lol..
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Lost my hair years ago. Now its less painful in these situations. :)
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Bug's getting less each day :P
Me too...only now it's growing out of lees desireable places ;D
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I just say my hair just migrated south. 3: 3: :u :u ff:
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I just say my hair just migrated south.
That's odd - so did Bug - Coincidence? You decide......
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