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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Toy Showcase => Topic started by: mick on December 12, 2009, 06:40:55 AM
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Nice, But I need to ask! How many times you roll it the first day out?
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Hey Doug, long time ! heres the thing mate ! NEVER !!! I rolled an xl model at the Redline factory in Minesota on their motorcross test track, it was totally my fault as I backed off when hard in a corner and over it went. I admit there is definately a trick to driving them which is easily learned, the trick being when in doubt 'PIN IT' = full throttle. As soon as you feed the throttle it settles the buggy and around the corner it goes. I really suggest you have a ride if ever offered the opportunity. Obviously with the advantage of long suspension travel and great ground clearance in a small buggy the sacrifice is always going to be a higher centre of gravity but for the thrill of big air and better access to more bush tracks I'm happy to make that sacrifice, these machines go almost anywhere. After having done over 100 mile in my new Revolt and having a few 'nearly' roll overs I've learnt that while at full throttle it wont roll. Same when jumping on motorcross tracks, if you chicken out and back off on the face of the jump it causes the machine to want to nose dive, 'PIN IT' and it floats through the air nicely and lands on all 4 wheels.
Anyways I will keep you posted on rides and upgrades as we progress through 2010
Keep Smilin' :)
Mick
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Next time your in MN you should stop and visit Mick ;D
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Looking at coming back mid next year. where in MN are you Spec ?
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Rush city
I'm exactly 1/2 way up the the state south/north and right on the Wisconsin border... well 3 miles west of it
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Ill make a drive over as well. Its a 5 hr drive to the border for me but Id love to meet a member from your group!
Only reason I asked about rolling is this... When I was at LS a guy was demoing them and I was offered a drive. Enemy took it out and he is a good driver, He is always on the pin. He rolled it in the first 2 min. and he alsa expierenced that theharness boltspopped out when he rolled it. Didnt seem safe to me and I wasot about to be responsible for it. The cost of the machine also did not turn me on. I think maybe the guy didnt maintain it well. I heard of others rolling it that same day so they packed up and left due to embarrasment.
Its great to see someone owning a couple that can handle them. Keep up the good work and keep posting the pics. Video would be cool too 8)
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There was a bunch of DTSers there that day.
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As soon as DS AND Enemy are on I was sure they would pipe up!
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I'm not here to knock or praise the revolts. Let's get that out of the way right now. 8) I personally like the look of the revolts BUT I also think that they would be better off sitting a few inches lower to maximize the roll over resistance while improving the ability of the suspension to follow the terrain and keep the tires in contact with the ground more . Cars set up at full droop all the time tend to just skip over the low spots instead of following the terrain. There was no doubt that the revolts that were at LS had roll over tendencies. I DO LIKE the long rear "ladder bar" links with the pivots far forward though. Many big time cars/trucks use the same idea I assume to minimize WB change and help maintain decent rear geometry..
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Guys I wish I could offer you the opportunity to drive 1 for a day, they do take a little while to learn to drive fast and feel safe. I feel safer in the revolt than I did in my piranha as its cockpit is wider and has higher roll bars as well as the standard 5 point harness and wrist restraints, If the harness came undone it wasnt secured or maintained properly. Personally I prefer to have mine sitting high for maximum ground clearance but theres no reason the fox shocks cant be tuned for a lower ride height. Price- compare them to what else is out there, I feel they are on the money, half the price of a tornado, barracuda or rage- much more expensive than a chinese buggy - you get what you pay for !!!
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Doug's planning a silver Lake gathering in the spring and i'm betting there will be another LS Hug also.
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Aw,crap!. I forgot you are in Oz.
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Aw,crap!. I forgot you are in Oz.
They say the memory is the second thing to go ;D
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Next time I get the oppertunity I will drive one. feel the 2-smoke will rattly my nutz. I may be wrong though. I don meant to sound like Im knocing them either. Im with faber on his comments. I do prefer the Cuda and the cockpit is huge compared to a Piranha. I hope you one day have the oppertunity to jump a high powered Cuda. As far as cost, I am currently buildng a Dheimified Cuda for a guy where all he has to do is bolt in a Busa, Powdercoat it, and plumb / wire it for much under he cost of a revolt. He is getting all the bells and whistles as well. I do see your point though. ;)
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They say the memory is the second thing to go ;D
What? You can't remember the first? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I forgot to ask - what is the date you guys are planning your gathering in the spring and where ? Dan & I would love to be there for that, I'll see what I can do in regards to bringing a couple of Revolts ! No promises but you never know, I'll get you guys on-side if its the last thing I do !!! ;D ;D ;D
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Although Mick I gotta say some guys love the build aspect of the cuda but then again there's gotta be a few that would prefer not to build and just purchase the turn key buggy, but that depends hey! I myself hafta say I'm getting a bit sick of the build at present! ::)
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You make very valid points Mick and again, Im not meaning to knock it. The only ones I ever seen were 2-stroke so thats some good info to know. As far as breaking down, Yeah I hear that alot but I have only ever broke mine down once. Depends on the quality of the build. I will not go as far to say that just because a company (who I wont name), built it, does not mean it does not have issues. I am swamped selling upgraded parts all over the world to Barracuda owners including our friends in S. Africa and Greece. People do want a machine they can rely on and so did you. With all the exposure you got at no cost to make your decision, seems like you had all the oppertunity to put it through the paces to make a sound decision. Congrats! People are equally amazed on how I never have to take a wrench out to work on my buggy day after day of hard riding.
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Those Revolts look nice!
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Although Mick I gotta say some guys love the build aspect of the cuda but then again there's gotta be a few that would prefer not to build and just purchase the turn key buggy, but that depends hey! I myself hafta say I'm getting a bit sick of the build at present! ::)
LOL!!,we all do! LOL!!!! Goes with the territory.
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I forgot to ask - what is the date you guys are planning your gathering in the spring and where ? Dan & I would love to be there for that, I'll see what I can do in regards to bringing a couple of Revolts ! No promises but you never know, I'll get you guys on-side if its the last thing I do !!! ;D ;D ;D
For LS I assume it will be in the spring around April. We'll keep the forum advised as we get within a couple of months.
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You make very valid points Mick and again, Im not meaning to knock it. The only ones I ever seen were 2-stroke so thats some good info to know. As far as breaking down, Yeah I hear that alot but I have only ever broke mine down once. Depends on the quality of the build. I will not go as far to say that just because a company (who I wont name), built it, does not mean it does not have issues. I am swamped selling upgraded parts all over the world to Barracuda owners including our friends in S. Africa and Greece. People do want a machine they can rely on and so did you. With all the exposure you got at no cost to make your decision, seems like you had all the oppertunity to put it through the paces to make a sound decision. Congrats! People are equally amazed on how I never have to take a wrench out to work on my buggy day after day of hard riding.
IMO,a buggy that needs worked on continually is a POS whether I built it or the biggest,baddest manufacturer did.
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Damn POS buggy, I've been working on this thing for 3+ yrs now.
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Damn POS buggy, I've been working on this thing for 3+ yrs now.
Short timer.........
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just the beginning! LOL!!!!!!
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So that's Dans new buggy is it Mick? How does he go getting in? :nw or what?
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Yeh Dan is a big dude, theres no gracefull way of getting in for any1 as they are so high, personally I need a milk crate for my short ass legs ! :D :D
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Well I saw him a photo and he's prolly a bit smaller then me so ya reckon I'd fit in one?
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if not there is always the XL model ! check this out !!!
http://www.1redline.com/products/revoltXL/index.php (http://www.1redline.com/products/revoltXL/index.php)
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALK'N ABOUT!! ;D ;D
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Great action pics!
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And made in the USA! ;D
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Well I saw him a photo and he's prolly a bit smaller then me so ya reckon I'd fit in one?
Hi Riedy,
Like Mick said its hard to look graceful getting in and out of the Revolt. but once i'm in it I find it quite comfortable . It is suprisingly roomy inside and I can drive it for hours and still walk when I get out. :nw
Dan
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Cool Mate, I spoke to Mick on the dog n bone, he's gonna talk to the dude at Mittagong and arrange a test drive, I'm just sicka building at the mo. ::) So I may buy one and see how I go with the Cuda, cause no doubt the young bloke will can I have a drive can I have a drive??
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Nice, But I need to ask! How many times you roll it the first day out?
LMAO rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl LMAO LMAO
oh no how did I miss this post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will have to send a link to enemy.
I will say they are a nice looking buggy and the short ride I had in the prototype was fun, the designers were nice guys as well!
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Ill make a drive over as well. Its a 5 hr drive to the border for me but Id love to meet a member from your group!
Only reason I asked about rolling is this... When I was at LS a guy was demoing them and I was offered a drive. Enemy took it out and he is a good driver, He is always on the pin. He rolled it in the first 2 min. and he alsa expierenced that theharness boltspopped out when he rolled it. Didnt seem safe to me and I wasot about to be responsible for it. The cost of the machine also did not turn me on. I think maybe the guy didnt maintain it well. I heard of others rolling it that same day so they packed up and left due to embarrasment.
Its great to see someone owning a couple that can handle them. Keep up the good work and keep posting the pics. Video would be cool too 8)
unfortunately I was back at camp when this happened and didn't get to see it in person or catch it on video, but I do know that when it rolled it was at a slow speed on fairly flat ground and yes when he went to unbuckle the seat belt were no longer bolted to the chassis! I am not knocking yours but after that and knowing who is involved as a dealer I would never even consider one! doug one of the guys that brought all 8 buggies to demo that was the dealer there was JAMES the former owner of sonic sand cars! if he set up that buggy then I know why it was falling apart and rolled! rofl
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I forgot to ask - what is the date you guys are planning your gathering in the spring and where ? Dan & I would love to be there for that, I'll see what I can do in regards to bringing a couple of Revolts ! No promises but you never know, I'll get you guys on-side if its the last thing I do !!! ;D ;D ;D
I'm in and I'll bet enemy's will be there too! so post it up.
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Hi guys, long time no post ! Hope your all well. Thought I better give an update.
Well Ive had this revolt for almost 2 years now & have done almost 900 miles without missing a beat. Yes it has rolled over on the side 1 time but not by me, no damage as it happened on soft green grass. I performed a double front flip going way too quick over a jump, it wasnt pretty but it did land on the wheels & drove away, thankfully didnt do much damage.
Anyways heres some photo's of the latest upgrade - TURBO running 15psi boost.
Not that the revolt is underpowered in stock form. Maybe I can get it to flip over backwards now ! Ha Ha
Havnt ridden the car with turbo yet, still needs to be dyno tuned with AEM f/i controller
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Wheelies !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbirB7bMVQk&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbirB7bMVQk&NR=1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FF5RSgVKnM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FF5RSgVKnM&NR=1)
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Hair dryers are always a good addition. What engine mods were done to accommodate the 15 PSI?
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low comp. pistons & turbo valves. Same as the FST snow mobile.
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NICE WHEELIES MICK! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thats not me in the video, thats Dave, the guy who is putting these kits together for the revolt
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Hey Mick that buggy looks good mate a fair bit of grunt. Have you & Dan still got your buggys?
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glad everything is working out for ya and hope you stay safe!
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Thats not me in the video, thats Dave, the guy who is putting these kits together for the revolt
Hey Mick. Driven it yet with that turbo? I do not know how you can stand the wait. I was wondering if they told you how too weight the clutchs? If so how are they set up if you do not mind sharing that knowledge?
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Reidy, hows it going mate. Yes Dan & I still have them & clocked up almost 1000 miles. I still have a new 1 for sale if you know of any1 that may be interested. Hows your cuda coming along ? I wonder what happened to ol' mate in mittagong, wouldnt mind getting hold of his riot !
Sandracer, No havnt driven it apart from 1 little squirt in the back yard & yes I'm hangin' for a decent ride. Waiting on my AEM fuel controller to get her running sweet as its running rich atm. Ive had some wheel adaptors lazer cut so as to tune on dyno. As for the clutch weights Dave set them up for me prior to shipping, all I had to do was take the old weights out & install the new 1's, about all I can tell you is they felt a fair bit heavier then original, the spring was not changed. I thought Dave shared that info with you on the redline forum ? The primary clutch engages at about 3200rpm.
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No he has not shared the exact weight configuration on the arms. As you have read on some of the posts on Revolt forum, I do not think he cares for me too much and will not post details for public view. He stated a weight range, not exact setup. Thought maybe you would tell me just so I could see how different our setups are. Mine is tuned great as far as I am concerned but always looking for better performance. If you pull it down and can pass the weight info on to me I would sure like to know. As for running rich, at $5,500.00 for a long block Weber, I am letting mine run a little rich for security and extended engine life. Can not wait to see hp at the wheels when you dyno it. Keep us posted. Take it easy Mick.
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