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Bypass shock with valving chart
« on: November 05, 2024, 10:18:17 AM »
Fox bypass shocks with valve charts
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2024, 06:43:08 AM »
Good info . I was just looking for my valving chart. .I assume you have a better understanding of bypasses now?
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2024, 04:40:40 PM »
Some good info here also.5 part article.   https://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/byass-shocks-part-i/   
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2024, 06:11:29 AM »
I have been fixing an oil leak on the truck. I did see that article but have not had a chance to read it in depth. Need to know how to adjust them properly. I did run. Across a company that custom builds their own line of shocks. Never heard of them, seemed to be used in ultra class 4 racing. I really like those those !    They build by pass with tubes in  custom zones for the customers needs. Was interesting but didn't grab a link to post. Internal bypass shocks are good shocks and basically do the same thing with less weight and space. It has become clear that they simply do not work as well as a external bypass.  I also found it interesting to read some of the differences between fox race series and fox performance series shocks. The sxs shocks are performance series and the lesser of the 2 class's. When one rebuilds them its best to buy the parts to convert them for a longer life. Fox really bored themselves out to the sxs manufacturers and I can see why. They spec them out with lower quality higher wear parts inside of them.
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2024, 06:36:53 AM »
I have been fixing an oil leak on the truck. I did see that article but have not had a chance to read it in depth. There is a lot more info on that site that you should read as well.Need to know how to adjust them properly. I did run. Across a company that custom builds their own line of shocks. Never heard of them, seemed to be used in ultra class 4 racing. I really like those those !    They build by pass with tubes in  custom zones for the customers needs. As do Fox and King.Was interesting but didn't grab a link to post. Internal bypass shocks are good shocks and basically do the same thing with less weight and space. It has become clear that they simply do not work as well as a external bypass.  I also found it interesting to read some of the differences between fox race series and fox performance series shocks. King builds a lesser line also.The sxs shocks are performance series and the lesser of the 2 class's. When one rebuilds them its best to buy the parts to convert them for a longer life. Fox really bored themselves out to the sxs manufacturers and I can see why. They spec them out with lower quality higher wear parts inside of them.King does the same. It's all about sales and $$

Please read all you can on the AccuTune site. Very straight forward info from a company that has a lot of years under their belt.
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2024, 11:11:29 AM »
External vs internal.. What mark might have  been referring to or one of them.





Bottom Take Off Reservoir
On most traditional shocks the remote reservoir comes off the top of the shock, but on bypass shocks they almost exclusively come off the bottom. In a normal top take-off shock the compression damping is resisted by the nitrogen charge and restriction from the reservoir hose. Due to these factors there is a range of speeds and forces where a top take off shock may stop providing more damping with higher velocity. The shock stops making more force because the IFP has been pushing into the reservoir, compressing the nitrogen more, and leaving a vacuum underneath the piston. As the shock slows down and reverses to rebound the piston can slap back to fill the void causing a loss of damping in rebound too. By moving the reservoir to a bottom take-off configuration  bypass shocks provide more consistent damping
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2024, 03:27:06 PM »
IYNYK......
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2024, 03:01:43 PM »
Mark is sending a copy of fox's instructions on the bypass. Well see what those say.
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Re: Bypass shock with valving chart
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2024, 08:06:54 AM »
I recieved the 3.0 triple bypass shocks along with the 2.0 coil overs. I had been running 2.5's so long I had forgotten how small the 2.0 bodies looked by comparison.  The 3.0 eb looks large and didn't take any pics. Mark did throw in a fox info booklet about tuning the eb shocks. Have not read through it yet as I have been Busy with other things. 
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