Arrowheads Honda Tranny Setup by magnum

[Admin]

the only problem with runny the honda imo, is an open diff. why would you want a one wheel wonder? lame.

Easy fix to that...

[fabr]

Millerize it?

[Nutz4sand]

the only problem with runny the honda imo, is an open diff. why would you want a one wheel wonder? lame.

I agree with Bug that this is a pretty easy fix. I also say if you only run sand it will not matter.  I watch VW rails with open diffs all day and they ALWAYS bury both tires in the sand. Paddles or not. I have watched hundreds upon hundreds of them get stuck and its always both tires spinning and digging. Thats in a VW with little side torque from the motor. With a Honda front drive car motor tranny being torqued forward I believe it will be even less of a problem.

The first VW diff (out of an old Beetle IRS tranny) I ever saw used as a spool was in a mini buggy at Glamis. It had the holes welded shut with a greas zerk on one. He told me he pumped a few shots of grease in it each morning before he rode and never had a problem with it. The car screamed and never spun just one tire. A few years later I saw a kid who bought this car drag racing quads at Oldsmobile hill. After kicking tail up the hill he would cutting brake it around and the car would literally pivot like it had a bearing under its middle. Same diff. Only time one wheel only spun was with the cutting brake. This is for sand only. In dirt and mud I have seen the opposite. 

Bug you can google different raitos. There are a lot of differances between years and cars (stadard wagon vs SI sport model)

[artie on edge]

I have to agree with Nutz, we only used open diffs in the full sized buggys and I never really noticed a time when it didnt do ok. But that was with stiff chassis and very chunky tyres so one wheel spinning heaps wasnt too much of an option, it always seemed to throw 2 roosters (from the seat anyway).

And it did help it turn in the tight stuff where you werent sliding or spinning the wheels. IMO.

Of course the lil buggy is solid and will always be so.

Ive welded many diffs over the years with farm play and speedway, never ever had one fail (at least at the weld area).

Weld it up dude!

[Admin]

Millerize it?

Linconize it actually...

[Admin]

I agree with Bug that this is a pretty easy fix. I also say if you only run sand it will not matter.  I watch VW rails with open diffs all day and they ALWAYS bury both tires in the sand. Paddles or not. I have watched hundreds upon hundreds of them get stuck and its always both tires spinning and digging. Thats in a VW with little side torque from the motor. With a Honda front drive car motor tranny being torqued forward I believe it will be even less of a problem.

The first VW diff (out of an old Beetle IRS tranny) I ever saw used as a spool was in a mini buggy at Glamis. It had the holes welded shut with a greas zerk on one. He told me he pumped a few shots of grease in it each morning before he rode and never had a problem with it. The car screamed and never spun just one tire. A few years later I saw a kid who bought this car drag racing quads at Oldsmobile hill. After kicking tail up the hill he would cutting brake it around and the car would literally pivot like it had a bearing under its middle. Same diff. Only time one wheel only spun was with the cutting brake. This is for sand only. In dirt and mud I have seen the opposite. 

Bug you can google different raitos. There are a lot of differances between years and cars (stadard wagon vs SI sport model)

7:1 final available?

[Admin]

I wont be jury rigging no shafts tho, Ill have doug or someone make me a new shaft all together with the 1" key i run, next question is width, My flanges are flat no cup, if the flange was 1" from the trans on each side what would the overall width be, anyone know?

[Admin]

B-series Tranny Specs

Transmission Name   Engine Counter Part   1st Gear   2nd Gear   3rd Gear   4th Gear   5th Gear   Reverse   Final Drive
S1/J1   JDM B16A X-Si                  3.230   2.105   1.458   1.107   0.848   3.000   4.400
Y1; Y1 w/LSD   JDM B16A SiR I   3.166   2.052   1.416   1.103   0.870   3.000   4.266
S4C/Y21   USDM B16A2, B16A3; JDM SiR2, JDM SiR2 w/LSD   3.230   2.105   1.458   1.107   0.848   3.000   4.400
Y80/S80   JDM B16B w/LSD; JDM B18C 96-spec R w/LSD   3.230   2.105   1.458   1.107   0.848   3.000   4.400
YS1   USDM B17A1; JDM B16A X-Si w/LSD   3.307   2.105   1.458   1.107   0.848   3.000   4.400
S1/YS1/A1   USDM B18A   3.166   1.857   1.259   0.935   0.742   3.000   4.400
Y80/S80   B18B   3.230   1.900   1.269   0.966   0.714   3.000   4.266
??   B18B (auto)   2.722   1.468   0.975   0.638   ----   1.954   4.357
S80/Y80; S80 w/LSD, Y80 w/LSD   JDM B18C SiR-G   3.230   1.900   1.360   1.034   0.787   3.000   4.400
S80 w/LSD   JDM B18C Spec-R   3.230   2.105   1.458   1.034   0.787   3.000   4.785
Y80   USDM B18C1   3.230   1.900   1.360   1.034   0.787   3.000   4.400
S80 w/LSD   USDM B18C5   3.230   2.105   1.458   1.107   0.848   3.000   4.400
S80 w/LSD   EDM B18C Spec-R   3.230   2.105   1.458   1.034   0.787   3.000   4.785








4th Gen D-series Cable Tranny Specs


Transmission Name   Engine Counter Part   1st Gear   2nd Gear   3rd Gear   4th Gear   5th Gear   Reverse   Final Drive
L3   88-91 HF   3.250   1.650   1.033   0.823   0.694   2.954 (3.250 Cali)   3.880
L3   88-91 DX   3.250   1.894   1.259   0.937   0.771   3.153   3.880
L3   88-91 Si   3.250   1.894   1.259   0.937   0.771   3.153   4.25
L3   JDM Integra ZXi   3.250   1.894   1.346   1.033   0.771   3.153   4.437
L3   JDM DOHC ZC   3.250   1.944   1.250   0.909   0.878   3.153   3.880
L3   USDM D16A1 Integra
NOTE:
Will not fit 88-91 D-blocks   3.181   1.944   1.347   1.033   0.823   3.153   4.216






5th Gen D-series Hydraulic Tranny Specs

Transmission Name   Engine Counter Part   1st Gear   2nd Gear   3rd Gear   4th Gear   5th Gear   Reverse   Final Drive
P20/A000   92-95 Civic CX/VX D15B8/D15Z1   3.250   1.761   1.066   0.853   0.702   3.153   3.250
P20/A000   92-95 Civic DX/LX D15B7   3.250   1.762   1.172   0.909   0.702   3.153   coupe/sedan: 4.058
Hatch: 3.888
P20/B000   92-95 Civic EX D16Z6   3.250   1.900   1.250   0.909   0.702   3.153   4.250
P20/B000   92-95 Civic Si / 93-95 del Sol Si D16Z6   3.250   1.900   1.250   0.909   0.750   3.153   4.250
??   92-95 JDM Civic VTi EG4D15B   3.250   1.900   1.250   0.909   0.750   3.153   4.250




6th Gen D-series Hydraulic Tranny Specs
Transmission Name   Engine Counter Part   1st Gear   2nd Gear   3rd Gear   4th Gear   5th Gear   Reverse   Final Drive
??   96-00 D16Y5   3.250   1.782   1.172   0.909   0.702   3.153   3.722
??   96-00 D16Y7 Civic DX/LX/CX   3.250   1.762   1.172   0.909   0.702   3.153   coupe/sedan: 4.058
Hatch: 3.722
??   96-00 Civic EX D16Y8   3.250   1.909   1.250   0.909   0.702   3.153   4.250



Prelude and Accord Tranny Specs








Transmission Name   Engine Counter Part   1st Gear   2nd Gear   3rd Gear   4th Gear   5th Gear   Reverse   Final Drive
P2A5   94-97 Accord DX/LX   3.307   1.809   1.185   0.903   0.685   3.000   4.062
P2U5   94-97 Accord EX   3.307   1.809   1.185   0.933   0.685   3.000   4.062
P2A4   94-97 Accord Lx/EX Wagon   3.307   1.809   1.185   0.903   0.685   3.000   4.062
T2W4   98-01 Accord Euro-R   3.285   2.090   1.481   0.071   0.812   ??   4.266
U2Q7   98-01 Accord Type-R   3.307   2.090   1.481   1.071   0.870   ??   4.266
??   88-91 Prelude   3.166   1.857   1.222   0.906   0.742   ??   4.062
??   88-91 Prelude Si   3.166   1.857   1.259   0.935   0.794   ??   4.062
M2L5   92-96 Prelude S (F22A1)   3.310   1.810   1.232   0.900   0.710   ??   4.062
M2S4   92-96 Prelude Si (H23A1)   3.307   1.857   1.320   1.034   0.812   ??   4.266
M2J5   92-96 Prelude Si (JDM F22B)   3.307   1.810   1.269   0.966   0.787   ??   4.266
M2F4   92-96 Prelude VTEC   3.307   1.950   1.360   1.071   0.870   ??   4.266
M2A4   92-96 Prelude VTEC (JDM H22A w/o LSD)   3.307   1.950   1.160   1.034   0.787   ??   4.266
M2B4   92-96 Prelude VTEC (JDM H22A w/ LSD)   3.307   1.950   1.360   1.034   0.787   ??   4.266
M2Y4   97-01 Prelude BASE   3.285   1.956   1.344   1.034   0.812   ??   4.266
M2U4   97-01 Prelude SH   3.285   1.956   1.344   1.071   0.870   ??   4.062



S2000 Tranny Specs


Transmission Name   Engine Counter Part   1st Gear   2nd Gear   3rd Gear   4th Gear   5th Gear   6th Gear   Reverse   Final Drive
??   99-03 S2000 F20C   3.12   2.05   1.480   1.160   0.970   0.810   ??   4.100



RSX/EP3 Civic/CRV K-series Tranny Specs



Transmission Name   Engine Counter Part   1st Gear   2nd Gear   3rd Gear   4th Gear   5th Gear   6th Gear   Reverse   Final Drive
??   RSX Base, EP3 Civic Si K20A3   2.684   1.500   0.984   0.733   0.571   ----   ??   4.389
??   RSX Type S K20A2   3.270   2.130   1.520   1.150   0.920   0.720   ??   4.389
??   04+ CRV K24   3.533   1.880   1.212   0.921   0.738   ----   ??   4.765

[Admin]

Robbed that from elsewere, have to look close the format didn't come thru the same for colums etc...

[RC51 Rhino]

We call it a 'lincoln-locker' in the crawling world here in Az.

[fabr]

In the drag racing world we call it an explosion waiting to happen.

[magnum4598]

the trany i am starting out with will be a 1991 honda civic hatch back four speed
i may deside to use something diffrent later
i know some of what i will call mid year (not new not old) i am not shure on the exact years and model
they are cable shift meaning its very easy to hook up a shifter with out all kinds of odd ball linkage
that i will have to use with the currant tranny i am getting for free lol i believe its very similar to
arrow heads tranny

[fabr]

I'm sorry but what engine are you using? I probably missed you saying .  Please keep us informed as to how it works out for you , what type of driver you consider yourself and what type of use do intend it for.

[magnum4598]

as far as i am concerned i have asked alot of questions localy with the honda street racers i know that build
9 second cars with stock honda trannies
they flog on there cars street and stripp clutch drops burn outs any thing we could do in a buggy
thing is these are cars that wiegh over 2000 pounds they rev these cars up to 9000 rpm serious power and torque and still trough a stock tranny with little or no problems thats the guys i talk to and work with here in baton rouge
so my conclusion done right is a car that wieghs a 1000 pounds this will be a reliable set up for way less money i plan on using a jack shaft that the honda shaft slips into i am making the honda trany removable
without alot of work
to me on this first set up getting the shifter right will be the most difficult thing
i think shifting the honda tranz  first with the busa in first gear then start shifting the busa if needed
but playing with diffrent combinations will be fun

[magnum4598]

i am a very agressive driver evan in my 05 chevy silverado i drive the shit out of that truck
lol all types of terrain we evan have some small dunes here in louisiana they are called la dunes i have never been i will be going soon lol hayabusa is what i am using for power i will start out stock
but hope to ad a turbo and what ever it takes to get it to 500 hp
at least thats what they say you can get out of a busa