It's Time! Summer Upgrades

[fastcorvairs]

My thoughts.
I have learned along time ago to research what you are trying to do and the person doing the project is the one that needs to be happy with the end result. I know I cannot speak for everyone but I personally have had a lot of do overs when putting together something to do with a sand rail.
I can have a very good garage sale on all of the do over parts in my storage shed!!

Have a great day everyone.

Winner Winner Chicken Diner.  No two people drive there car the same.  What works for one will not always work the same for others.

 

As long as your running a real light pressure plate, you should be OK. Like stock poundage light.........

Not always.
I run a 3000# PP with my double disk and have had 0 clutch problems, and the only reason I have had to rebuild my trans is because I missed a shift.  Not because of the clutch.  Again any one can brake things,  It's just how you drive the car. 

[Carlriddle]

I've gotta redo clutch on my m/c rail after last trip (slipping bad).
Glad to see there are as many opinions about auto clutch as bike clutches.  Everyone seems to have a diff way of doing it; depending on how they use it, where they use it.  Nothing is a yes/no answer.

[fabr]

Personally I see no way that the clutch should EVER slip so I do not see the wisdom in running a light pressure plate other than lower pedal effort,not to act as a slip section in the driveline.Dual/multiple (think MC) disc clutches are inherently able to use much lower pressure pressure plates and not slip. That said Carl hit the nail on the head and so did Fast and sandvw. There is no one answer.

[BDKW1]

Personally I see no way that the clutch should EVER slip so I do not see the wisdom in running a light pressure plate other than lower pedal effort,not to act as a slip section in the driveline

I think the slip is more of an Off-road racing thing. When you need to be able to hammer on a trans for several hundred miles and make a few mistakes in that time, it's cheap insurance. On the transaxle cars I have prept, it's pretty easy to measure the disk after a test session and figure out how long it will go for and adjust your pressure up or down depending on the results.

[fabr]

thanks,good info! I can see that in that type of application.

[Yummi]

So this is part of the reason for the redo. 

After buying the car we discovered a crack on the frame on the passenger side.  That was repaired for the season.  At that time we also discovered that the "torsion tube" was bent.  It has a bow that may not show in pictures.   We decided that we could likely run it for the season then redo it.  Throw in a mid season tranny swap with some temporary mounts, etc and the whole rear is sort of buggered up.  We also discovered a new crack at the left side of the car.   


The trouble is the design of the tubes, and their intersections.  The guy that originally built the car had a great vision, and generally good execution, but at this area it could have been done different.  There are a total of 12 tubes that intersect with the torsion bar area.  It is in some respects the lynch pin area to the whole car. 

To remedy the cracking issues and redo / repair this area effectively the entire rear end of the car will be cut off.   Fuel tank - out.  Radiator - out, entire rear cage assembly - tossed.  Chop chop weld weld.   

[fabr]

Had to study the pics for a but but I finally see what you are saying. Ya, a bit of redesign would go a long way.

[Yummi]

Good golly this is going slowly.   

Delay on tranny a bit.  Come to find out I am hard on 2nd gear.  Should be back on track soon enough as Bill will be done this week.  Then off to AZP.   Woot - sucks that I have now officially blown up my budget, but I do have a degree in poly sci, so the politician in me says that is totally acceptable.

[D Walker]

I don't hae a degree but i can talk myself into stuff all the time.

[fastcorvairs]

I don't hae a degree but i can talk myself into stuff all the time.

I do that all the time DW.  So your ok.

[fastcorvairs]

Good golly this is going slowly.   

Delay on tranny a bit.  Come to find out I am hard on 2nd gear.  Should be back on track soon enough as Bill will be done this week.  Then off to AZP.   Woot - sucks that I have now officially blown up my budget, but I do have a degree in poly sci, so the politician in me says that is totally acceptable.

Ya Yummi for president.

[Carlriddle]

Ya Yummi for president.

    Even though I'd vote for Yum faster than the deficit clock can spin, I have come to the conclusion that the political process can ruin a good man.  And if you were to shake things to much you'll be next to Jimmy Hoffa?

Its the build process and a song; One thing leads to Another!! 

[MC]

Never saw this first time around but I can tell you from experience I would stay with a standard 4 puck clutch. Brian pretty much hit that one on dead center.

[Yummi]

[Yummi]

Wowsers. Hard to find a torsion bar. That has finally shipped. Car looks sad and lonely waiting on the torsion bar. Then some gussets here and there, brackets there and everywhere, powder this, polish that and mount the other; it will be zipped up.

Combine the torsion bar sourcing issue with some minor delays from Jason @ AZP and well, it is a little behind schedule. Now, no worries on Jason @ AZP Concepts. We knew going in that some of his time was allocated. Some other opportunities have come up for him that I so hope will put him on the map. If it all comes to be, and I think it will, we will do a thread just for that. I am one of his biggest cheerleaders and want only the absolute best for him.

So that my project gets put on the back burner from time to time is just fine. He knows his absolute cut off dates and he will work day and night to finish it up. Besides, he really needs his floor space back.